EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

"Jersey is particularly dependant on cars, with 166,000 vehicle journeys being made on the island everyday, Jersey also has the highest car ownership per head of the population in the world, with car ownership rising by 14% between 1996 and 2001, according to the last Census."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/arti­cles/2005/10/07/election05_issues_transp­ort_feature.shtml

That was in 2005, I suspect it's a lot worse now. Sounds idyllic...

They did also rave about the public transport and how easy it was to use and understand, it's a small island so maybe something has been done, this is just a 3rd person account, anyway, back to reality!

Maybe - I was under the impression that she regarded the Telegraph as tabloid rag and only read the the Times though..

This is why we need to keep undesirables out of our country - scum like Bergerac.

Jersey : http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2018/08/14/poverty-in-jersey/

Last month newly published figures revealed that inflation in Jersey had risen to 4.5 per cent with large price hikes in housing costs, fuel and food all recorded.There are now concerns that more Islanders will struggle to make ends meet over the winter when food and fuel consumption increases and further inflation is expected owing to factors such as Brexit and global uncertainty.

This year there were more so-called ‘pauper funerals’ – which are paid for by Social Security as the deceased person’s estate cannot cover the costs – between January and May than during the whole of 2017. According to a freedom of information request, 28 such funerals were held at a cost of £52,779 last year but in the first five months of this year there have already been 30 funerals covered by the States. If the current trend continues, a record number of paupers’ funerals will be held in 2018.

I lived there for a month. IMHO if you have qualies, kids and work in financial services its probably one of the best places you could live for all round quality of life.

You can be surfing after work in half an hour. The traffic really isn't that bad (even though locals complain). I'd cycle or use a scooter to commute... unless I was driving straight to the beach after work.

It's also probably about as quick to get from there back to London as it is from Cornwall. The only issue is the weather can close in quickly and ground flights.

It does have the usual disadvantages of a small town so I'd be less keen to be there in my 20s, but after that....

Only mention it cos I was aware of this...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/14/english-reformation-first-brexit-survived-break-europe-do/

Do they live in Tiger's Bay Belfast by any chance? ;)

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-vote-leave-eu-sign-at-entrance-to-loyalist-tigers-bay-estate-in-north-104941941.html

what are "Quali's"?

'fications?

Sorry misspelled. Qualies.

They're the qualifications that give you full/equal rights.

Without them you can't really buy property and your right to remain is dependent on your job / spouse.

You get some fucked up stories in cases of divorce.

Suggestions that Brexit is prompting an increase in wages in some lower paid jobs
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-skills-shortage-wages-rise-net-migration-falls-cipd-report-a8489366.html

Indeed - must be where she saw it. She's lovely on a personal level but clearly as mad as a box of frogs. Funny thing is she'd assumed for a while that the wife and I were Brexit supporters. Wife cheerfully disabused her of that notion.

Acute shortages drive up wages.

If the inverse is true (lots of people working drive down wages) AND desirable (skill shortage? robots or we just expand outside the UK) I am still not sure.

I read some people in some NI towns voted leave because they though fishing/meat processing work did not earn enough (usually it is minimum wage) and people from mainland EU came and did the work.

Minimum wage has not gone up by voting leave.

We have already lost two jobs to Republic of Ireland in our office due to Brexit. Whatever happens though, some conversation needs to be had on all this, cos minimum wage just pure sucks.

But if one factory pays more for food processing, the consumer will just buy cheaper stuff from another factory. Unless the problem is accross the board, but with Tesco getting fruit from lots of places lately, again I am not sure.

This will send an easily digested message that "migration needs to be limited" because it is an easy sell for a complex problem. Snippets politics and soundbites is where it is at atm.

And this guy, lol

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-45206046

"Cipriani is said to have sworn at the woman officer, telling her to get off him.

The court heard she was left with bruises on her bicep and red marks on her neck."

That's some effective swearing.

Yes, not the most nuanced article. Brexit supporters are going to view it as validation though, the vote has worked, we're getting our jobs back and wages are going up.

I may have missed this before, but what is your ideal Brexit outcome?

They'll never give a proper answer to this, betcha.

Ideal Brexit outcome is a Brexit outcome where Brexit outcome means Brexit outcome. #gammonlogic

Worst IT job ever?

EDIT: And not because it is based in Croydon.

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It fails to mention 'career suicidalist' as a requirement.

The only people (srs IT managers) who could ever make inroads into that job (given two or three years to do it)... Would never take it (given pay alone, never mind the rest).

I have to be careful what I say here because my identity is public but I worked on a major UK gov project that was also doomed for failure quite a few years ago. It was a project of similar size in terms of value and similar pressures in terms of certainty of failure and timelines. The ITD I worked for smashed it. There is a real skill to successfully and safely failing at something. She was genuinely a pleasure to work with and I picked up so much from her before I moved on. She made the best of a bad situation.

Sadly, not long after I left, she was scapegoated, sacked and hung out to dry. Not altogether unexpected. She didn't actually choose to take the role, she was forced into it after being put at risk of redundancy. She must have known it was a poisoned chalice. I cannot see anybody voluntarily doing the Brexit version of the same deal.

Open to EEA nationals but there must be no time limit to staying in the UK!

If they put that much PowerPoint effort into a job advert, the role activity itself should be a wonder to behold.

The effort that went into it was probably immense. They'd all have known that it would be picked apart and laughed at.

Yes, it's not an obvious career move for anyon full time to take, but the pay scale (given private sector contractor programme managers, who I've worked around and who have been good, and sufficiently politically astute) is absolutely a million miles away from getting a short termer in.