EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

While we could all do with some good news :)

You work for a big company with offices all over the world. Easy to get a transfer, put your name up for an overseas role. Make sure you get onto a local contract to insulate yourself from the pound tonking.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/207247
Get thick as mince Davis censured.

Happy Brexmas

http://brexitcentral.com/happy-brexmas-john-redwood/

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But he got a knighthood.

So anyone here actually think brexit is a good idea?

Lol.

@Señor_Bear ?

Some interesting Brexit chat (views of forrin people) on The World Tonight yesterday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09jqtkl

It starts around 14:30 and goes on for a while (at least 10 minutes).

Is May really going to give Boris a hand in Brexit negotiations?

I'm hoping she is slightly emboldened having survived into 2018. She has seen how David Davis has been worn down by having to face the reality of what Brexit entails with the consistent approach of Michel Barnier. She now has an opportunity to ensure thst dePfeffel also owns Brexit. As he famously wrote two diametrically opposed articles for the Telegraph, he is the most likely of the HardBrexitters to turn & accept a softer option.
Also he has been a disaster as Foreign Secretary.

Boris is really going to make the UK look fantastic to the rest of the world O_o

It's not as if it hasn't suffered enough reputational damage. Popcorn at the ready!

Maybe it's the best move under the circumstances the Tories are in, which just shows what we all got dragged into ...

Might be very interesting watching Boris, who famously puts his hands over his ears when his team talk about any details of policy, trying to negotiate with Barnier.

A calculated plan to rid her of those jostling for leadership - 'reward' them with seemingly impossible portfolios of responsibility?

Or accepting that Boris is PM in everything but name, and she's lining up her resignation in January?

Ah. Or that.

I had a sense that she was (is?) playing the long game, given her propensity to want hang on to / retain 'control' despite everything. The Boris rumour sounded like pushing more people under the (brexit, oh the irony) bus. However, people can only take so much pressure in a role... maybe she'll bail.

...despite knowing everyone hates her...

Do you think she fully appreciates this? I hope she does.

I get a sense of denial, or a feeling of not giving a shit about it from her about it.

She's got to make a decision in 2018, that'll split the Tory party down the European fault-line, then it's Boris vs. Hammond, and a general election.

Unless the spectre of losing said election to Corbyn is sufficiently scary that the Tory party can (finally) put country before party and go for Brexit in name only.

I'm 100% convinced that the Tories would lose a General Election if Labour throws it's weight behind Brexit in name only - or even actually remaining.

Which is why it's going to get interesting, as I suspect the few sane Tories in the Cabinet know this.

So how do they pull back from the abyss? They have to make a decision - March 2019 is coming - but to do so means the end of May, GE and Corbyn.

Or they work out some method of emasculating the lunatics who have beaten the Eurosceptic drum for the past 40 years.

The Conservative party seem to be incredibly good at uniting/resigning/whateverittakes to save the party though.

I suspect that May is trying to wait for the next round of gerrymandering to come into effect--which would put Labour at such a disadvantage that no kind of Corbyn effect could offset it. Remember that one of the reasons why Labour did so well was because the election was too early for constituency boundaries to have been redrawn to favour the Tories. This article is spun in favour of Labour, but it still says that Labour would lose more seats than the Tories once the goalposts were shifted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/29/tory-conservative-seats-risk-parliamentary-boundary-changes-labour

Interesting - do you know when that's due to happen?

wait for the next round of gerrymandering to come into effect

You think this legislation is likely before 2020? I get the impression parliament and the civil service doesn't have the physical and mental capacity to deal with any legislation other than brexit this year. Or next...