Tubeless Tyres -"saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again" Hippy read the first f**king post

Nah, they seated without it. If they don't stay up tonight I'll have a roll them through the bath and look for any bubbles around the bead and stuff.

Getting them seated is only part of the setup. If there are gaps around the rim/tyre interface you have to shake the wheel to get sealant to the right place.

Don't use a bath, the air loss is too slow to notice. Soapy water will show up patches of bubbles as the air slowly seeps out.

Fair enough. Will see how they hold up today/tonight after being ridden a bit first...

The chances are that when cycling the sealant will only be spun outwards to the edge of the tyre, not in towards where the tyre and rim interface, and I'd guess that is where your problem is. Have a look there are plenty of YouTube videos about this.

Everything I read over on Singletrack and MTBR suggested that the Continentals can take a couple of days to seal properly. I used Conti's own method of painting sealant onto the inside of the tyre and that seemed to work well.

Much as I hate to agree with DJ, the riding method is also meant to be very effective at dispersing the sealant.

Nevermind... that's not what he said :-)

Yeah, saw the video you posted about scrubbing it in. Will add to the list of things to try if it's not worked this time. Pretty chilled about getting it all working, figured I'd try riding it a bit to see if it helped before anything messy.

Going to pop some Schwalbe G-One on Velocity Blunt Sl in a few weeks too. Will report back when I get round to that...

Those Halo rims look pretty decent. I also put 2.4s on a 30mm internal width rim and they actually inflated to 62mm casing width, with a good shape to them.

Are you in London. I've got Pro One's on my road bike that you're welcome to take for a spin.

Halo Vapour 35

What do you think of those so far @andy_k ? I'm looking to build some geared wheels for my Ogre and these would save nearly £50 over the Eastons I used on the Talbot. The only other ( alu ) suspects I've seen for 30mm'ish internal rims are:

WTB Asym i29/35
DT XM 481
Spank Oozy Trail 345

All more expensive than the Halos.

Thanks for offer. But no longer in london.
I'm building up new wheels soon, so will get some put on there to try. Need to do some good distance on them and see how they fair over time.

Do they feel nice to ride on?
Do they grip in the wet?
Do they leak much air over time?

Yes, yes, no (well, less than latex tubes but more than a butyl tube).

Yeah the leaking air is a bit of a ball ache. Any idea how much? Need to measure that.

Haven't ridden them as much as I'd like but fine so far on local trails and in the Peaks. Hoping to get out for a big ride this weekend...

LBS have been riding a set of the 29er wheels for ~6 months with dirt wizards and 2.4 x or trail kings can't remember which without issue. We both like the clicky freehubs, rims seem to stay straight after blundering down rocky stuff (he's lighter than me though...) and bikepacking round Wales last summer/autumn. Seem to give tyres a similar shape to the 29er Blunt 35s I ran on the Karate Monkey (will have those rims for sale shortly...)

For disclosure: we received them from Halo to test before they released the rims, if I have to return them (and didn't find a spare 550£ for AC Wide Lightenings) I'd almost certainly buy them again.

Judging by my last wheels. 10 - 20 psi a week ish. Not much, but enough to top them up if you don't ride the bike for a week.

Thanks

Ta, will most likely give them a go :-)

the air leaking is no worse than a butyl inner tube

Dave's got some magic spray shit at the workshop, spray round rim, bubbles appear, wipe off. Pop in and nick some if you need.

Interesting... Seems to be holding fine now but will bear that in mind if it's flat tomorrow morning...

Think we're both in the workshop all day.

Tyres still full of air, seems like the extra dose of sealant did the trick :)

Just fitted some Mavic Yksion Elite Allroad 30c tyres to my Kinesis.

https://www.evanscycles.com/mavic-yksion-elite-allroad-700c-folding-road-tyre-2016-EV254195

Seem like a quality item and were £27 each which I thought was pretty good for a road tubeless.

Will report back on how I get on.

Ok, I've now got a pair of Schwalbe Pro Ones on my Pacenti SL23s. 2 layers of Stan's tape. my rims are mis-matched; last year my rear rim cracked around a spoke nipple and got replaced, so I've got 2014 rim at the front and 2015 at the back. 2015's got a noticeably wider internal width, and a deeper central indentation. Getting the tyre on that rim was a piece of piss. On the front, 2014 rim - much harder. Needed my gf's help (luckily she's got strong climber fingers) and a lot of brute force to get the tyre on. Soapy water helped too. My thumb hurts though.
Still, once they were on, I was able to use a normal floor pump to quite easily inflate the tyres and seat the bead. Not put sealant in yet, but both tyres are holding air very happily.

Side note - weighed the old tyre and tube (25mm gp4000s II and michelin latex) vs the new tyre (Schwalbe One Pro 28mm) and they were almost identical. 298g vs 296g... that's the weight for an old GP4000 though, so in theory a new one might weigh a few g more. Obviously there's the sealant to come, making the tubeless set up a tiny bit heavier... but if you went 25 I guess it would be more or less identical.

Got the S-Ones in at first try in Grail rims. Was surprisingly easy, for the second one didn't even bothered to seat it before putting sealant. Just rim tape, get sealant in, put valve core and pump hard.