Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

Then stick some 33mm on it and race 'cross.

You can even do that with a Canyon Endurace.

(I also fitted WTB Riddler 37c on the Endurace, so it's like the Standert, just less expensive).

I mean....

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 Road bike                       ^         MTB

This thread is for bikes in that tiny weenie little bit between the two.

Well actually, this thread is still

Because somebody asked and I'm bored

Gravel is literally 35mm tyres - it's just that in the UK we don't really have a gravel roads network like they do in the states so everyone ends up building something that's better than a rigid 29er off road 1% of the time and worse 99%.

I mean actual gravel. The stuff that started the gravel grinding scene in the USA. The strade bianche of Tuscany. The pistes DFCI and some Voies Vertes in France. Swedish sportgrus.
I understand there's little if any of that stuff in the UK, but if trail riding or being knee deep in mud on a bridleway is your thing, maybe you'd be better off with a MTB anyway or one of those so-called adventure bikes.
For all the stuff I have mentioned that Standert will be much better suited, and is much more of a gravel bike than a lot of the 2.00" tyre'd bikes featured on the thread.

tl;dr what @umop3pisdn said.

better than a rigid 29er off road 1% of the time and worse 99%.

This is literally what I've done and am trying to resolve

35mm tyres

I thought that was CX ;)

That's why I ride a rigid 29er on my 'gravel' rides. I take the 38mm slick tyred bike sometimes, and feel smug gliding up the road climbs, then get left, swearing at the back on the descents.

I have a bouncy 29" with a lockout. best of all worlds. not even that slow on road tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvO74sZxVs4

tl;dw

1st MTB
2nd CX
3rd Road

Not surprised, even 35mm tyres were comically better than road tyres.

ffs

Someone photoshop this on top

This kind of absurd monster is what I don't get. As soon as a gravel bike start looking like a handful on road won't be better to ride a hardtail?

Winch & plummet gravel?

Must belong to @pit

Just needs rebas, dropper, and flat bars to look like a bike.

I like this trend towards fat-tyre drop-bar bikes. You can do anything easier than blue/red MTB routes just fine, which is like 95% of the off-road miles in this country (when you account for hiking trails and the like). And, importantly, you can put 35mm slicks on and you've got a perfectly useful commuter or tourer. Can't really do that with a hardtail (at least not without being laughed at)

Zipps for gravel though, get out.

And, importantly, you can put 35mm slicks on and you've got a perfectly useful commuter or tourer.

I get the idea of this, but does anyone actually swap their tyres regularly?

I used to, then I got a dedicated commuter. But I'll be moving that elsewhere and going back to two wheelsets, one for gravel and one for road/commuting/whatever

Mudguards (if you have them) are more of a pain than the tyres/wheels IME, haven't seen a convincing system that you can detach/reattach easily

Tyres, no, wheels (and hence tyres as well), sometimes.

Someone photoshop this on top

If this bike have a normal drop bar (like up to 44cm), then... why?

I thought I would, I built up another bike for road and have my off road bike. No faff!

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Hadn't known Standert for anything other than their gorgeous track frame in the navy and white colourway...

Not sure if it will take 38s though /shrug