Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

The only thing on this that doesn't make me puke is the light and the I really want a thermos bottle full of coffee. Maybe I just want the coffee. Like now. Coffeee!

It looks more like surly geo where rather than square CTC it’s longer than it is tall. Hard to be sure without seeing a geo chart. Obviously this worked OK with quill stems and suits people that either run super slammed or a massive Scoble stack, it also comes back to the question of “ UK gravel” if this bike destined for the leafy tow path /New Forest fireroad end of the gravy spectrum then doesn’t matter so much, but the market is already saturated with bikes that’ll do that. If destined for actual off riding, doesn’t really make much sense.

Going slightly taller in ST/HT could have given same aesthetic but less ridiculous post and spacers.

Don’t give me “but stand over” pls

might even be boozy coffee...

UK Gravel

I read somewhere that the reason it has the small headtube is that it's lugged and the available lugs are limited.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGmmYD-lZpb/

I don't really care about lugs, but if you like them then I guess it's just the price you pay.

Still a prototype too. Think this is just the L HT on an XL frame. Something to do with availability of lugs and probably not wanting to spend a fortune on the 4-5 test frames.

Sounds like full geometry and such will be up in the next week or so. Find out if longer headtubes made the cut.

“Classic” Steel Gravel/Gravé/Pathé bikes - just get a surly

Interesting to see if they actually come in any cheaper than a custom from a UK builder.

https://twitter.com/coffee_dad

There are 2 lugs, top and bottom, the head tube is brazed into the lugs. The lugs don’t dictate head tube length in any way.

They do if you're keeping the seat tube a set height.
For a given seat tube height, taller headtube = lesser angle top lug needed. ie a different lug

Beginning to think I should have posted it in Functional...

I dunno, I am not a frame designer, but that's what the frame designer says.

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It's a nice bike mate, we're all just sad that it won't fit us...

You're allergic to spacers? Don't make me post a Thorn Audax.

Anyway. Have we had this yet? It's tall, it's short, it has gravel specific carbon layup.

Point taken, but...

@Belagerent

Don’t give me “but stand over” pls

Out on the bike this weekend I couldn't help but noticing that everyone seems to own a gravel bike these days, is this the most successful marketing push within the cycling industry ever?

It makes sense to own a bike that sort of goes fast, has safe and good braking in all conditions and yet is comfortable for all the non pros out there.

Exactly. The comfy versatile bike has been so under rated for so long, finally living its best life.

Not long ago it was only touring weirdos that would ride big tyres and mudguards.

Gravel bikes are MTB training wheels for roadies

I think all those people you saw riding to work on 14kg MTBs with non-functional suspension forks, awful brakes and draggy tyres will now be riding around on 12kg gravel bikes with mostly-functional disc brakes and less draggy tyres. Good thing IMO.

I still remember getting my first cx bike. It really made riding unbeaten easier

being comfortable with excess spacers is like wearing sweatpants everywhere, yeah it's comfortable, practical, once you do it it's hard to even consider going back.

but you also tell the world "i have given up", "i simply do not have the time to compare 2029023 bike frames with clearance for more than 700x45c", "the world has left me behind and that's ok"

you know when you're out shopping people give you weird looks, parents out riding with their children shuffle along a little quicker murmuring "don't look jessica, i dont want you getting any ideas about spacers". yeah sure it's a more comfortable world, but it's a lonelier one.

You should have just stumped up the cash for that 853 custom fit cx bike and sold your van

"don't look jessica, i dont want you getting any ideas about spacers"

lol

Is this an e-bike? Don't think I can trust oversized downtubes anymore.