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Much like politics, the forum is split 6 ways from Saturday. Too many threads.
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I'd like to know more about the specific dates; there were stories in the press last year that he had rejoined Labour. Today it says he had provisional membership pending approval by the NEC. When was the provisional membership granted and why did the story come out this week?
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I have no idea, but their 'launch' all seemed to be professionally handled by media agencies, very slick. Perhaps that story was handled in the same way.
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Ian Lavery of the Labours in what I suppose together with Corbyn's appearance in Broxstowe constitutes Labour's official reaction:
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https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/07/labour-derek-hattons-membership-application-has-been-rejected/
They send out a card automatically, apparently. Then they review it afterwards.
I doubt there’s a conspiracy tbh.
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This feels appropriate to this thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/24/world/europe/britain-austerity-socialism.html#click=https://t.co/pI0i0O5u86 -
I think the American writer of that piece has a different idea of what is 'lower middle class' than most British people have.
He comes from a lower-middle-class neighborhood of Welwyn Garden City, north of London, one where life expectancy trails the national average. He grew up in a state-subsidized rental property and attended a school ranked “Requires Improvement” by the state educational inspection agency. His sister had her first child at 16. -
What a damning result for Watson--endorsed by Tw*tter users. :)
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One of my bugbears is a lot of writers/media are throwing around "middle class" with 0 definition of what they mean.
Economically, the 25-75% of income, or 22-45K income band in the UK is the "middle class".
If the family is at 22K a year, it is not impossible they needed a council house/rental benefits if rent is very high in that area. 22K is still in the tax credits band if you have kids and work.Casually, middle class is often used in the UK to indicate the top 10% income band here or doctors/lawyers etc... people with big houses and big cars.
Then there is the class definitions to do with identity which are a whole minefield, to add to the fun. And so before you know you are 20 essays further before the article even starts :)
The rest of the article isn't too bad though I think.
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One of my bugbears is a lot of writers/media are throwing around "middle class" with 0 definition of what they mean.
Economically, the 25-75% of income, or 22-45K income band in the UK is the "middle class".
If the family is at 22K a year, it is not impossible they needed a council house/rental benefits if rent is very high in that area. 22K is still in the tax credits band if you have kids and work.Casually, middle class is often used in the UK to indicate the top 10% income band here or doctors/lawyers etc... people with big houses and big cars.
Then there is the class definitions to do with identity which are a whole minefield, to add to the fun. And so before you know you are 20 essays further before the article even starts :)
Out of interest, do you feel confident in understanding definitions of class? Because I was born here, and I really don't. But I don't interpret it as being defined by income.
Edit: Sorry I realised I'd misread your first line - not that the writers don't know the definition, but that they don't set out the definition in each article. Yes I agree that might be useful.
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I look up to him, but I also look down on him.
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Readers of the Brexit thread might remember recent talk of the Haringey Development Vehicle (HDV) and its subsequent scrapping after Momentum ousted the leader Claire Kober and scrapped it.
Anyway, today while visiting friends in Tottenham I found out that the first 'Corbyn council' seems unable to do the same thing to stop property developer Grainger from redeveloping Wards Corner (to most people the Latin American market next to Seven Sisters tube), despite widespread local opposition, it being declared an asset of community value and even the U.N. getting involved (they described the redevelopment “a gentrification project [that] represents a threat to cultural life” in 2017).
Subsequent googling revealed an interesting New Statesman article (worth a read) containing this little gem:
The man who manages the market on behalf of Grainger, Jonathan Owen, was investigated by TfL in March 2017 for his conduct, and claims he’d used language like “bloody illegal immigrants”, called a trader a “fucking bitch,” and declared “a fucking war” on another trader complaining about him.
The report found he’d used offensive language in meetings and personal conversations with traders, and threats (once telling them: “If I wanted to, I could get rid of 90 per cent of the traders here.”) He accepted he’d caused offence and apologised.
Owen is the the director of the company called Quarterbridge, appointed by Grainger to relocate the traders and design the new market, as well as the director of another company and its subsidiary that owns the market’s lease.
It will be interesting to see if the first Momentum council go with Grainger's current plans or consider the community led alternative being put forward...
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corbyn upgraded to actual nazi deserving of physical abuse (which actual nazi's are worthy of, i hasten to add).
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