This morning's commute (the 'ugh' edition)

@bothwell
#wouldrepifcould

some guy just made a kissy noise at me (like a proper smoochy noise) and when i ignored him he spat at me and revved off.

ISN'T IT NICE WHEN THE SUN'S OUT.

You mean you didn't thank him for his smoochy noise compliment?!

Man in van shouted "FUCK OFF RUG MUNCHER" at me this morning.

Where to even start with this one but I'm fairly sure it wasn't meant as a compliment.

My foreign ear keeps me sheltered from a lot of things by simply not understanding anything.
Appart from the blow-job signs from the cab driver the other day.

today's highlight:

"STOP SCOWLING YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SMILE DARLIN"

this is just my face, dude

(ever relevant)

I did read the supporting material but it was largely based on people shouting abuse at women, which I wasn't talking about.

Basically men and women on bikes occasionaly get street harassment from twats and ofcourse are taken differently by each person, male or female.

Just because a man says something to a woman you infer that it is always worse than vice versa just by playing the sexism card. I know
women who wouldn't get more bothered by some bloke shouting about there arse than I would. Some people can shrug it off, and some people have to make videos about how it has made them feel inferior and how they demand to be treated with more respect.

I know
women who wouldn't get more bothered by some bloke shouting about there arse than I would

That's cute. Meanwhile there are no women, and indeed no men, supporting your views in this thread. Sounds to me like you're deploying the old "some of my best friends love being told to fuck off and die by white van men for not accepting their compliments" in an effort to justify your increasingly tenuous position.

Here is the logical fallacy you are making, HTH: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11565310/Police-investigate-construction-firm-after-complaints-from-passer-by-over-wolf-whistling.html

This probably belongs here.

Playing the sexism card. Nice.

Troll level 8/10 - would feed again.

Lols. Remember women, it's all very well focussing on how you feel about an experience in your life, but what about how a man feels about how you feel? These are truly the important issues of our time.

The irony is strong in that Telegraph article.

Miss Smart, who is single with no children, said the builders’
"intimidating" behaviour had left her feeling very uncomfortable. She
said: "I wouldn't go up to someone and comment on their race to them,
it is the same as sexism and it is rife.

So, erm, we'll just comment on your marital status then.

I think it's worth reiterating here what the ladies forum is for.

LFGSS is a male-dominated forum, for the purposes of discussing a male-dominated activity. This can lead to it becoming inadvertently (and sometimes deliberately) unwelcoming to women. The ladies forum is designed to address that by providing somewhere for women to talk about things that affect them specifically, and above all to be a positive place where women can support and be supported by other women. Pointless arguments like this undermine these aims and I've tolerated it in this thread so far (as it's quite a good case study, given the wider subject matter), but I won't be continuing to tolerate it.

99.9% of people using LFGSS at large are cool with the aims of the ladies sub-forum, but if you are unable or unwilling to respect either the philosophy or timbre of it, then you're not going to be participating in it.

I actually assumed our jolly troll had joined up purely for the purposes of trolling this here thread. Maybe just trawling the interwebz for people to bore. But no. Member since 2008. Major forum disappoint...

LFGSS is a male-dominated forum, for the purposes of discussing a male-dominated activity. This can lead to it becoming inadvertently (and sometimes deliberately) unwelcoming to women. The ladies forum is designed to address that by providing somewhere for women to talk about things that affect them specifically, and above all to be a positive place where women can support and be supported by other women. Pointless arguments like this undermine these aims and I've tolerated it in this thread so far (as it's quite a good case study, given the wider subject matter), but I won't be continuing to tolerate it.

i'd just like to reiterate OP for the dual aims of starting this thread:

"however: i don't want to just be sad that it's shit and it happens. i'd like a thread where people can share the outrageous crap someone tried with them on their commute, because i think it serves a dual purpose. people who are subjected to it feel like they're not alone, and people to whom it never happens get to see how commonplace and unpleasant it is."

you'll notice that there isn't a third one saying "have to defend myself and my opinion from someone from a privileged position who hasn't had the same experience and who decides, based on and citing no personal experience whatsoever apart from tenuous links to "friends who don't think like i do" that my reaction to a daily unnecessary unpleasantness (to put it mildly) is an invalid overreaction". that's not what this thread is for.

i welcome and invite conversation on the matter but you seem unable to accept how unwanted and nasty these situations are. i assume it's never even happened to you, not once, not with malicious or sexualised intent, however mildly, so who are you to say how women should feel or that they're overreacting? if, perhaps, your voice had been joined by others it could in theory form a valid critique (or at least lend more legitimacy to a lone uneducated/troll). but it hasn't been. there's a reason the posters in this thread, male and female, feel so strongly about this and i'm really impressed that people have taken time out of their day to try and explain things multiple times to you

Why do they need to point out that she's single with no children?!! What does that have to do with anything?

Edit: H2O got there first.

What are they trying to say? Is it "line up, line up!" or are they suggesting that she's a rabid feminist who can't get a man? I'd love to know their reasoning for the comment.

because men and women don't get the same treatment in any arena involving publicity. pretty sure obama's hair or summer body has never been commented on (could be wrong). pretty sure they wouldn't comment on the victim's offspring or marital status if it was a corresponding situation involving a man.

Obama, married with two children - as he is called... never.

No just sayin not every woman may feel the same.

Actually posted in here by accident (from 'todays posts') thinking it was in the LFGSS main section. After having abuse thrown at me and called a troll for having a slightly different viewpoint, its probably best I dont visit these parts again. Peace out.

it's probably for the best.
I am actually gobsmacked that you could say something like

So every bloke who makes a comment at a woman on a bike is somehow a rapist in wating??

for real. not trolling. wow.
doesn't that bother you at all?

I wonder if men can effectively try to counteract street abuse like this?:

A while back I found myself rolling up to some lights in secondary and a large van with men in front were 'cat calling' at a woman walking near, sort of the other side of me so I was physucally in the middle of this harrassment.

Without really thinking hard about it I (with demonstrative sarcasm) loudly said carry-on style stuff to them like 'Ooh you cheeky, in your dreams, you saucy lads' etc etc, as if they were harrassing me, a middle aged man, in an attempt to try to embarrass and make them feel uncomfortable. Put the focus on them.

It sure wiped the smiles off their faces and shut them up.

I should hasten to add I don't think I was being homophobic. I've been harrassed about my sexuality in the past (once abused as a group at West forum drinks and it was horrible) and I really loathe homophobia, even though I may well have committed it in the past and have always regretted deeply if something I've said was inadvertantly homophobic - it's all around us all the time and was totally normalised in the media as I was growing up.

for real. not trolling. wow.

I am mostly chuckling at "you're abusing me and making me feel bad so I'm leaving" which is extremely funny given the context of the chat that led up to it

Did you not read the post I replied to? Was just trying to give some context to it.

@bothwell: So one rule for you and another set of rules when its you on the receiving end. Nice one.

@bothwell: So one rule for you and another set of rules when its you on the receiving end. Nice one.

Actually, I'm laughing at your hypocritical response rather than your feelings over the matter. What you are saying is that everyone else needs to stop having feelings that you disagree with, but as soon as your feels are hurt then suddenly feeling bad is important and should be taken into account. Only your feelings, though, I assume. Nobody else's.