Hot drinks on the road

You're all under thinking this. A simple flask won't do. New, custom frame must be ordered. Integrated wiring to the bottle cage kettle that is powered by front and rear dynamo hubs.
Of course the temperature must be set to below 75ºc to minimise accidental burns.
It's the only real solution.

How about a Teasmade wired into the hub?

How do you know about my trousers @antlers

I use one of these for sweet, black coffee.

I'm not really down with putting hot drinks in and plastics, even BPA free.

It doesn't fit all bottle cages perfectly until I wrap a strip of fabric around it, then it's snug.

I would have thought that the movement of the bike and the airflow around it would affect the efficiency of any flask.

Warm for 4 hours when riding in temps around 10°. A decent thermos (even a small one) hours longer. Water in regular bottles gets very cold so even having something nearer body temp is welcome.

Why not just stop at cafes...

Maybe you'll also stop in cafes, maybe you'll pedal into the night, maybe there are no cafes and maybe you'd just rather keep moving.

Difficult to keep drinks warm on a bicycle?

...keep them in a dead camel?

I bought a Stanley stainless steel thermos flask that is shaped just like a bidon and fits into a bottle cage nicely, without rattling.

but does it hold the heat well?
A good thermos will see hot tea from morning to the evening (although flavour is a bit ropey that late on)
I remember a winter ride with my deboyo one, burnt my mouth at first and by an hour later it was lukewarm...

Edit, ahhh its not actually a bidon, just fits into the holder

If you want it to stay hot you're better going with something other than tea. By the time it's brewed it'll have lost a few degrees. Boiling water straight into the flask with coffee or bovril or whatever will do better.

No hot bovril, or warm vimto? What a disappointment.

Quite often carry a stainless vacuum flask of coffee with me in the winter.

Putting it in the camelbak beside the bladder is good as it tends to take the chill out the water. Otherwise I carry it in a drybag on my rack or I think it fits in my Ortlieb saddlebag too.

The fuller it is the longer it stays hot but can easily be too hot to drink after 5 or 6 hours if you've not been in n out of it too often.

Some really good ideas and suggestions, so thanks.

I've decided to try out the Bike Buddy with a proper thermos combo.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001F514WC?vs=1#

If it doesn't work, we can always use the flask for walks instead.

Oh, and Bovril can fuck right off! ;-)

More of a warm OXO man?

Have never had either as a drink. Nor used an oxo cube in a pasta sauce.

Just the thought of drinking gravy makes me want to gag.
Gravy is for Sunday roast.

I've not read through the whole thread, but I've thought this recently too Tom - sweetened tea would be brilliant on long winter rides.

I never drink enough when it's really cold like this as the idea of slurping down something that's been half frozen having been out in the cold for 3-4 hours isn't appealing. Thus i end rides pretty dehydrated.

I read a thing about Garmin Sharp's (or whatever they're called now) winter training, and they do hand them up bidons with warm tea in, but i imagine riders bosh that down in about 20 mins. I really think that you're not gonna get any bottle that will keep something hot for 3-4 hours if it's directly exposed to really low temperatures. For example, even the thermos flask i've got for non- riding use only keeps things warm for about two hours, and that's when it's been stashed away in a relatively windproof bag.

My uninformed opinion would be, if you'er dead set on trying it, get one of those podium chill thermos bidons and drink the contents very early in the ride

For example, even the thermos flask i've got for non- riding use only keeps things warm for about two hours, and that's when it's been stashed away in a relatively windproof bag.

Put the contents into a warmed flask and maybe drink more less often. If it's still only keeping things hot for 2 hours then I think you have a rubbish flask.

Just take a trangia and a stove top espresso pot with you (or aeropress if you're a hipster).
Perhaps team them with a rapha blanket to sit on, and a good pork pie?

I looked at those podium chill bottles, but I can't imagine heat would stay in for even an hour.

Anyway, I've ordered a proper Thermos branded flask that holds 0.8L and a cool looking quick release bottle cage to hold it. I'm also looking for a neoprene sleeve for the flask too for extra insulation. If all of that fails I'll call Garmin and demand one of their cars follows me all winter, handing me hot, sweet tea on demand. And mince pies.

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Wow. Impressive @Dammit channeling there. Spooky.

Mulled scrumpy laced with rum or GTFO.

(Serious answer, tea in a podium chill - they keep things warm/cold for longer than you'd think. No milk.)

I use an old chamois cream pot for the piccalilli.
Never be without!

This could go wrong in several eye-watering ways

Hot, spicy cider with a top of gin is 'nice'. The Ginocide.

Nicer than pickle on your privates anyway.

I think they'll be up for it. Wegelius is always a bit of a 'forward thinker'. Just promise you'll give him a few TTM trademark flat whites and crumpets with marmalade after the ride

Mmmmmm, crumpets with marmalade. I wonder how I could keep those toaster hot and fresh on a ride......