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The whole Orford Rd /Village arguement detracts us from the potential benfits MH should bring to the borough- I think a one way and traffic calming would have won some of them over...

Mind you , we need a few more bike shops...

It seems the loathsome Stella Creasy is in the anti camp.

An ironic twist given that the anti camp were giving her grief over corruption and conflict of interest because she was spotted in a local pub having lunch with somebody involved in the scheme

Nice before & after shot of Orford Road.

One of the opponents appears to be a first-class conspiracy theorist.

http://windowsontheworld.net/2015/09/big-society-change-agents/

Beat me to it, what a cracker!

Loominarty confirmed: https://www.facebook.com/illuminati.bikes

That's the best reason against the scheme I've seen so far.

The new one is so much more comfortable.

The new one is so much more comfortable.

I don't know about that, I bet as part of their controlling madness to make it as much like Holland as possible they're installing powerful wind machines at either end of the street, too. And then what? You'll either get blown away or you freeze to death. Some comfort.

(You heard it here first.)

Visited WF mini Holland
Impressed by the peaceful relaxed vibe in the area and the surrounding local streets. Not so sure about the main roads though.

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OK folks, few points...

1. Stella's not anti the scheme, nor is she pro. She's trying to be determinedly neutral for a whole bunch of reasons - not many of which I agree with, but there you go. That email from her is her trying to sum up the gripes. I don't like it. But I don't think it's a sign of her pitching in with antis.

2. People, even on here, seem to view Orford Road as the start and end of the scheme. Work started today on the "Blackhorse Village" area. Bigger than the village area, less posh. We've got two more areas after that for "villagisation" (the names, dear god, the names).

And hell no to one-ways and traffic calming. It doesn't work. You can see it not working all over the borough. The Essex Road/Peterborough Road scheme that went in just south of the village at the same time as the village went in showed exactly how rubbish that idea is. Unless you're willing to put in speed humps like Matterhorns, that idea is a dead duck. All one way systems tend to do is increase traffic speed, collision frequency and severity. They don't remove through traffic. And then traffic calming just buffs the worst edges off it.

1. In the same vein, there are problems with Ruckholt - namely the lanes being too narrow and the lights being phased wrong. But those have been raised with officers, who agree with us, and are trying to find fixes. Ruckholt is also far from the only road in the borough due to get main road treatments. The rest are coming - they're just slower cos TfL, particularly its Buses arm, are crawling over the plans and modelling very carefully.
   

Article on the Enfield mini-Holland http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/oct/05/bike-lane-blues-london-local-businesses-cycle-enfield-green-lanes

My favourite quote from one of the opponents:

“The high streets are reliant on women for business. ... Most women don’t cycle – either they don’t want to or they are too busy.”

Oh wow, generalised much?

At one of the Enfield public meetings, one of the antis apparently got up and said, with straight face, that women don't cycle and will never cycle to the shops because they want to get their hair done.