Colnago C40 HP last generation58 cm, Campag Record very good condition 1.1K no offers

how am i put in my place?

you're not, op was trying to....

don't labour it, or whoosh parrot comes out

"With regards to your comments about this being one of the 'first Colnagos'"
one of the first carbon colnago's, arguably a pre cursor to the c40 was what i wrote if you had taken the time to read it properly, you ego must have made you assume i was taking about you or yours

you are right about my c40, i mislabeled it hp, thank you for the correction
I have a C50 superlight hp
the benelux colnago distributors Codagex official repairers unlimitedcolours.nl was where i was told that the lack of holes in stays cause corrosion, they recommend drilling a small hole above the drop out, Jim Kranen, gaffer in waiting (after his father) told me
my question still stands, what physical provenance do you have of your extensive knowledge?

get a fucking life mate

Saarf is, and has been the gaffer on Colnago round these parts for a long time. Ignore his advice at your peril. The HP is ironically less sought after than the original C40 which is widely regarded as the first 'modern' carbon frame, inspiring most of what you see on the road today.

This is fast becoming a popcorn thread. Colnagos aren't hard to sell, but you seem to have done a number on yourself here. Like I said, if you want to try and get 4 figures for it - eBay. Then factor in the 14.7% fees (and now PayPal on the shipping). There are a lot of very knowledgable experts around here - insult them at your peril....

many thanks, but i'm no gaffer, i just try to pass on what i have learned and experienced

"you really have been away with the cloggies far too long"

i can't wait to get back tbh

I think it’s very subjective in terms of which C40 is best. However and for certain; if you buy bikes for riding them, rather than wanking over, the third generation is superior. Both in terms of performance and durability. The first generation had for most of its production run an aluminum BB shell that can corrode it was replaced by Titanium inserts. The second had B Stays. The third in an attempt to stiffen them up a bit had the Diamond chain stays. As I have ridden and owned both the second and third I can vouch for certain the third is an even nicer ride than the second. As for saarf being the gaffer I question this on the bases that: 1. He does not know the name of bicycle components for example he calls a gear hanger a gear stop. 2nd he 'mislabeled' his own second generation C40 a HP which I think is an elementary mistake ' and 3rd and (this is the best) the comment about having them not having holes in the seat stays which make them prone to ‘rot’. Some Steel bikes have holes in the seat stays to help heat escape when they are being made. I’m starting to question if sarffs pre production or whatever c40 bike is actually a steel bike? That might explain the holes! I’ve never heard of a Carbon bike having some sort of drainage holes. Carbon does not corrode for a start. C40s are bonded but I’ve never heard of the bonds coming lose. sarrf can you post a picture of some carbon bikes with drainage holes. I am really curious about this? If i'm wrong i will eat my cycling shoes!

Woah...... I have been considering my entry into the world of "plastic" frames with a C40 for some time.

I have learnt a lot in one day on this thread, merely as a fly on the wall ;-)

school boy error re lable of c40 bstay/hp, mea culpa!
i never bothered with the c40 hp as the c50 hp was released at the same time thereabouts, and is a superior model
you are clearly off key
'' As for saarf being the gaffer I question this on the bases that: 1. He does not know the name of bicycle components for example he calls a gear hanger a gear stop ''
i have never made this comment
i have never called my self and expert or gaffer
'and 3rd and (this is the best) the comment about having them not having holes in the seat stays which make them prone to ‘rot’''
as i stated, the benelux distributor codagex's official repairer told me this , his word was "rot"
there are discussions on a plethora of fora regarding the subject, take your pick here
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=237890
this link is where i took the qoute from in this thread regarding how common the problem is, it's 'author' is on here funny enough
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the link i showed you was a discussion on how common a problem the stays and drop outs are on c40's, c50's, and ct1"s
the word rot when i used it may have been a poor choice, perhaps corrosion is better
of the 11 Colnago's I currently own, none are used for masturbatory material, they are all my size , and every one is ridden
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sarrf can you post a picture of some carbon bikes with drainage holes. I am really curious about this? If i'm wrong i will eat my cycling shoes!"
sure, as soon as you answer my question regarding providing your actual physical provenance,the bikes you state you have or had are arguably good, surely you would have documented them photographically?
for all we know, you are lying about what you had, or are you so arrogant as to the asume the good people of this forum should take the word of an illiterate fool?
at least twice in your poorly exequted listing you have either misread my comments,or , worse attributed others comments to me, you must either be a dyslexic as i can be, which i will forgive, or just plain stupid and rash, which, if you really hope to give a good defence in a discussion , is unforgivable
all that is left for me here is to wish you glws, as you really, really need it

ciao

the following are links to explanation of the cause and necessity of drainage holes on carbon bikes
''Hi all,

I recently got a Giant Defy Composite 2, (carbon frame).

After hosing it down after the really muddy rides I've been having lately, when I pull it up onto its back wheel to wheel it along, lots of muddy water drips over the floor. It seems as though this water has collected inside the frame somewhere.

I think I read somewhere that there are drain holes in some frames.

1) Are these drains only in carbon frames?
2) why are they there (ie why isn't the frame sealed)?
3)seeing as the water that drips out is usually muddy, should I be concerned that a build up of mud will occur somewhere inside my frame and cause damage. Or, worse, increase the weight of the frame!
4)so, should I make some attempt to clean inside?''

http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=71291
"Usually happens in wet weather, on bikes with no mud guards. Common cause is water off the back wheel getting in at the seat clamp, its very hard to seal this, as - well the clamp has to clamp - so the fit of the seat post to the seat tube isn't perfect.

Doesn't usually cause problems, but yes its a good idea to empty your bike of water after each ride."

http://forums.bicycling.com/topic/54635607129533064

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/water-in-carbon-frame-1

i think the colloquial term is

owned

"If i'm wrong i will eat my cycling shoes!"
do you want salt, pepper or any other condiments to make them more palatable?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

If this one was the only one offered for three months, some of these issues would not be a problem but there are loads of these on Ebay and some of them are NOS--and cheaper

good luck with sale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_g7CZJMnJA\

step step step off cause ya know ya soft

can i get a wiki wiki ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEmg5GaAHbk

bare love for the zulu nation

im gonna pass that jam on it to a friend of mine for his next italodisco night.

shits getting boring though, saarf, keep your shit to yourself and let the n00b dig his own grave. its 2feet deep already.

secondly, shoutouts to the eastwood massive!

shit yerself, it's tongue in cheek

@saarf You're not going to win these arguments conclusively until you master the quote function, at the moment it's too hard to follow!

.-

apologies, i didn't realise i was competing, there are no winners here imo
i do struggle with the whole quote thing tbh, how does one do it well?

cheers

i also struggle comprehending what exactly the "eastwood massive" are/is (forgive neanderthal qoute) is it something to do with line dancing?
google shows nothing break beat related
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=eastwood+massive&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp&gfe_rd=cr&ei=3B4oVNz0FtCq8wfW-oGoBw

To quote you just put '>' before the text you want to quote.

It will look like this.

Then we can all be #teamsaarf