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When i heard the 'beatle's' accent i was pretty gutted and felt ashamed to honet. James Foley was a guy trying report the suffering of the Syrian people to the world and if you look at the publications he worked for he was hardly some polished imperialist fox news presenter he was there to show people the truth.
Fundamentalist / Extremist Islam is a doctrine based upon the insecurities of men and they thrive on recruiting dimwitted impressionable misanthropes who can't think for themselves. Any kind of honor amongst these plebs is long gone. Mass summary executions, and beheadings, followed by rape and eugenics. (One particular quote that has sickened me is the threat to "impregnate yazidi women to smash their blond bloodline' (sic).
I'm not naive enough to think that the West are not doing horrendous things around the world, with global systematic poverty the world over, but these little shits are changing the way the game is played and it isn't going to be pretty. I'm thinking it's gonna come this way soon enough too. -
So are the Brits heading over to wave the IS flag gonna be stripped of their nationality?
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probably not but yes they should and so should brits who go to wave the Israeli flag.
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Dunno how you strip nationality but I guess passports can be burnt.
On top of all this I find the comment sections on Liveleak tough to deal with. Equally I find the silence on the atrocities from UK based muslims disturbing. I can't work out whether those voices aren't getting any/fair air time or if they exist at all.
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yes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257089/form_rn.pdf
I'm sure it can be forced. especially as your passport is technically the Queen's property.
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Given that the UK is a signatory to the UDHR it can't strip nationality from a British subject where that would leave them as a stateless person. A passport can be revoked since (at least the last time I checked) the granting of a passport forms part of the royal prerogative, and it can therefore be withdrawn under the same constitutional convention.
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In January 2014, the Immigration Bill 2013-14 planned to extend the powers of the Home Secretary to allow for certain terror suspects to be declared stateless. The bill was initially blocked by the House of Lords in April 2014. However the Lords reconsidered their decision on the bill during May 2014, and it has now returned to the commons before being set into UK law.
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why do Muslims have separate themselves from the acts of a few deranged crackpots? why should muslims be more vocal than anybody else? this isnt anything to do with Islam.
If anybody actually has studied islam they will know that Killing innocent people is forbidden what more can British muslims do than a non muslim?
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false interpretations of an archaic doctrine.....
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In January 2014, the Immigration Bill 2013-14 planned to extend the powers of the Home Secretary to allow for certain terror suspects to be declared stateless. The bill was initially blocked by the House of Lords in April 2014. However the Lords reconsidered their decision on the bill during May 2014, and it has now returned to the commons before being set into UK law.
Ah, good to see the current administration retaining its high regard for the UK's obligations under international law - i.e. if it's inconvenient, or if there might be votes in it, or if the Daily Mail might approve, then just ignore it, and do what you like. What a fine example to be setting.
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i agree but if nearly 2 billion Muslims can interpret it in a peaceful way, why is that islam and Muslims are held responsible because 0.0000001% (probably even less) interpret it in a blood thirsty violent manner?
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Even if it were possible, to what end?
To spare "our" blushes: born in the UK, raised in the UK, educated in the UK, but not "our" problem?
At the very least, declaring a person stateless risks extending to them some perceived, if not actual, distance from the rule of law and the cachet of "outlaw".
Anyway, back to the Nazi-pandas plz.
PS Is that a SNES controller he's holding? Conclusive evidence of time travel if ever you needed it, no?
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Muslims, heh? Going over there and cutting our heads off!
Where's a decent Christian when you need a child raped?
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probably not but yes they should and so should brits who go to wave the Israeli flag.
Not if you value law. If you take someone's nationality you put them in a legal limbo where you can do what you like to them with impunity and without trial. And that's all that separates terrorists from the rest of us.
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but its fine for them to do what they like to people without impunity and without trial?
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Britain first? i don't see British people being painted with the same brush as these nutters...
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it seems to be the case doesn't it.
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Anyway im off to look at some bikes and read other stuff.
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but its fine for them to do what they like to people without impunity and without trial?
Er, no. Straw man alert.
Chopping people's heads off and engaging in acts of terrorism is against the law already. Removing people's nationality will not make it any more against the law. Preventing a state from removing their nationality will not make it any less against the law. Not removing someone's nationality does not mean that they are free to act with impunity and without trial, and so the fundamental premise of your rhetorical question is flawed to the point of non-existence.
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Quite: taking the piss is the best way of diffusing a shitstorm in a teacup.