Politics Chat.

You're probably the only UKIP cyclist in the country.

Still, as you're, do you think that Peter Walker's assessment of Peter Whittle as the worst candidate for London Mayor as the worst for cycling was fair?

Also, and this is only because you've expressed a political allegiance, are you a closet racist like half the party or are you quite open about it like the other half?

A UKIP cyclist?

Is that better or worse than being a working class Tory?

Worse but not as bad as being any kind of Biffa

I was thinking more of the turkey that votes for Christmas analogy but that's a fair point.

again, let us know how that works out for you, mmkay?

Boring. Next.

keep at it sparkles, i'm sure someone'll bite.

I don't know what you are but you're certainly not very bright.

I'm bored already and I usually LOVE good troll.

You're right there.

(I don't even have a degree in computers and I believe that is THE benchmark these days.)

UKIP isn't very euro is it.

That's interesting because I'm an immigrant who has come over here and taken a British job so I guess I'm your nightmare. Such a shame we can't be friends.

Please fuck off. Forever. Thank you.

THANKS.

It's odd, for sure, but it must be possible for Trollo to actually be a gay, black UKIP member - there are female Republicans, and people who vote for the Tories who earn less than 500k/year.

We live in a world surrounded by unfathomable realities.

But if you have the logic of someone with a gcse in computing...

I don't understand the elections today - I looked for Trump on the ballot, and couldn't see his name.

If you cross them all, trump will come

Andy Burnham chatting about running for mayor of Manchester. Thatd be a hit to the plp.

Sir Richard Leese is relinquishing power to his own personal fiefdom?

I can see why he'd do it. He's not optimistic about Labours chances in an election, but as mayor of a city he could have some influence in a leadership role that didn't rely on the rest of the country backing the party. But yes, it would be a real shame to lose one of the few "centrist" labour MPs who have stayed on the front bench under Corbyn's leadership, helping to unite the PLP.

The rise of the right.

Is it just me that's concerned about this?

Hitler and Mussolini were viewed by quite a few as buffoons and now we have Trump on one side of the Atlantic and the dream-team of Johnson, Farage, Gove & Grayling on the other all of whom use a facade to hide the raft of dangerous and divisive policies they'd love to unleash given half a chance.

The Overton window has been pushed further and further to the right because, instead of refuting their politics, the Conservatives have been adopting them in order to retain voters and in doing so have also appealed to the extremist outliers. New Labour's lurch to the right under Blair hasn't helped either.

The arguments aren't logical, they're emotional and what's now considered acceptable in terms of rhetoric, headlines or campaigns is horrendous. How have we become this? How do we have mainstream political parties, with elected MPs who consider it acceptable to mimic Nazi propaganda?

What a tedious fucking Cunt!
http://www.manx.net/tv/mt-tv/watch/80453/ramsey-nick-crowe

This by John Kay is very good regarding the decline of manufacturing and the politics thereof.

http://www.johnkay.com/2016/08/29/the-economics-and-politics-of-manufacturing-fetishism/

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/oct/18/margaret-thatcher-snatches-win-from-david-cameron-in-vote-on-centurys-worst-pm

Dam experts and their expert opinion.