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What year was this bike made? I'm not aware that lo pros were ever built by the original Hetchins of Southend on Sea, production stopped in the late 60s. The name then passed through a number of hands, including Bob Jackson so it may be from that era. You can still get a new Hetchins today.
The cynic in me asks how sure are you that it is a Hetchins? There's nothing particularly about this frame that says Hetchins: e.g. curly stays or fancy lugs, and replica decals are easy enough to get.
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This is a genuine one owner. Picture of him Time Trialing on it.
I had a cuppa with him this morning and filled him in as to what has been happening.
I told him that the frame might be Bob Jackson made.
He said that the frame was bought at Hetchins' Southend -on- Sea but that he needed the frame angles changed to suit his build.
So Arthur Hetchins gave him the petrol money to take the frame to Bob Jackson in Leeds!
I suppose this makes it a Bob Jackson frame, sprayed and badged by Hetchins!
Sorry for mis-leading everyone.
The good news is that the bike will be sold with a brand new Vittoria Pro-Team Kevlar PR 24" Front Tub Tyre. it was under the bed in his box room!
WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE? HELP!
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wavy gravy!
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+1 for the forum auction
£10 a ticket set for months time auction. if the price hasn't been made over the asking price of £550 then the 1st Dibber gets it ?
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This is a genuine one owner Hetchins.
The old boy selling it had it made by Hetchins in Southend.
He will confirm and show you a photo of himself Time Trialing on it in the 1980's.this is the thing,
I know of Hetchins lugs added to Bates frames - for the angles-
these sorts of things happened in the old days, like the OP bike
because frame builders didnt exist in the current bike production market
sorry to derail, Im recognising that the owner deserves a good sale
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Delist here and list it on ebay and state that you are willing to post with insurance a must at buyer's expense and let the market decide. Plenty of Americans and certain South Eastern markets would be really keen on bikes like this one with provenance.
List if with plenty of photos, get a bike box and pack it up right and I can't stress enough to insist on insurance. Do not agree to under declare the item whatever the seller tells you. Plenty of scammers out there, so beware and go through the proper channels.
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Just an idea but how about putting this up for raffle on here? I'm sure there are over 100 people willing to give a tenner?
That is a great idea - are there forum rules about such a thing? I would be in for a few tickets.
There are UK laws and regulation about such a thing.
http://www.institute-of-fundraising.org.uk/guidance/about-fundraising/raffles-and-lotteries/
If the raffle passes the criteria set down by those regulations, then I'd allow it. But, very few raffles do meet those criteria. It's a lot easier when the proceeds are going (in majority) to a cause or charity, and that there is transparency over the distribution of the funds and there can be some assurance and verification that the draw is random and fair.
We have done raffles on LFGSS, usually raising money for causes like the London Courier Emergency Fund (LCEF).
We have not permitted raffles for the sale of items whereby the proceeds are intended for a person rather than a cause or charity.
IF (and it's a big if), all of the criteria is met and I can be shown some documentation from the relevant local authorities that the raffle that raises funds for a private individual is OK. Then it will be permitted.
It should be noted that PayPal block raffles and fundraisers on the same ground and will freeze the account(s) that receive any money raised if they detect it.
It's a very highly regulated thing to prevent fraud, money laundering and restrict the activity confidence tricksters. I'm sure none of that applies here, but the simple fact is that I cannot allow raffles without being somewhat sure that it passes the regulation.
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Contact the Hetchins register with the frame no.
(Len is a really helpful and knowledgeable guy)http://www.hetchins.org/104.htm
If it is a genuine Hetchins and you will post internationally,list it on E-bay and it will make well into 4 figures
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what defines......
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There are UK laws and regulation about such a thing.
http://www.institute-of-fundraising.org.uk/guidance/about-fundraising/raffles-and-lotteries/
If the raffle passes the criteria set down by those regulations, then I'd allow it. But, very few raffles do meet those criteria. It's a lot easier when the proceeds are going (in majority) to a cause or charity, and that there is transparency over the distribution of the funds and there can be some assurance and verification that the draw is random and fair.
We have done raffles on LFGSS, usually raising money for causes like the London Courier Emergency Fund (LCEF).
We have not permitted raffles for the sale of items whereby the proceeds are intended for a person rather than a cause or charity.
IF (and it's a big if), all of the criteria is met and I can be shown some documentation from the relevant local authorities that the raffle that raises funds for a private individual is OK. Then it will be permitted.
It should be noted that PayPal block raffles and fundraisers on the same ground and will freeze the account(s) that receive any money raised if they detect it.
It's a very highly regulated thing to prevent fraud, money laundering and restrict the activity confidence tricksters. I'm sure none of that applies here, but the simple fact is that I cannot allow raffles without being somewhat sure that it passes the regulation.
This. the way round it is to make sure not a single payment into your paypal account mentions the word 'raffle' but this is difficult to police and I had my account suspended when doing the LCEF freecycle builds and subsequent raffle. I had to beg them and promise I would stop, then had to take payments into my bank account with the surname as a reference but that was a nightmare to reconcile.
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AFAIK you could by pass the law by putting a question into the deal i.e. Who founded Hetchins? and charge an entry fee for the quiz. This is based on speaking to a guy who runs a company which organises such promotional events for some well know corporations. Hence there are at times competitions with easy peasy questions with a nice prize, they are in essence running a raffle but worked a way around the system.
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