Columbus Max Appreciation

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-BARUZZI-By-Zullo-COLUMBUS-MAX-FRAMESET-CINELLI-CAMPAGNOLO-MINT-/00/s/MTE2OVgxNjAw/z/djcAAMXQC-tTBHEV/$_57.JPG

Fork?

Rychtarski frames are basically always MAX, no?

It is Columbus Life, only fork is C Max

Rychtarski MAX road w/ Richard Sachs lugs

It is Columbus Life, only fork is C Max

I want one.

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=123203

Just picked this up, another NZ Made max frame.

Troppo. Needs base-bars & extensions quick.

Considers: Monostay Appreciation Thread

The problem with monostays/wishbones is they are shit in every way bar teh aeros.*

*re. steel bikes.

Considers: Monostay Appreciation Thread

Dat ass thread.

The problem with monostays/wishbones is they are shit in every way bar teh aeros.*

*re. steel bikes.

http://www.englishcycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Blue_Web_002_9627.jpg

I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but I was under the impression that the thinking was big chainstays for stiffness, then modest seat-stays/wishbone section for compliance?

AFAIK it's always going to be lighter (with the same qualities) with 2 full-length stays.

I'm a sucker for an English so I love that^ Please don't post the profile showing the nodder geo.

There is a reason I picked that photo.

I admit to having a dog in this fight as I'm going for a wishbone rear end, for the very reasons I mentioned. Max top tube and Spirit downtube, so I think I can get away with mentioning it in this thread.

I believe you can lose a little out-of-the-saddle stiffness with a wishbone. But something like that English probably takes all that into account.

Max (stiff) TT and Sprit (light/small/thin) DT is an unusual choice no?

(I'm not a frame builder)

It's entirely possible I'm getting the names wrong, Ryan has referred to my downtube as both Max and Spirit Mega.

Same as this one (as seen on my Oak):

Ah. They are massive diameter tubes!

My track frame (which pretty much lives on rollers) is Spirit throughout but standard Keirin/traditional sized tubes. It's quite stiff for a steel track frame. That^ should be in a different league.

As I understand... road bikes aim for stiffer DTs than TTs (I'm sure you're aware of this).

Hopefully!

On the new one we're using a PF30 bracket, but on the Oak it's BSA- here you can see the sheer size of the downtube, having a rebate cut for the seat-tube to fit into it as it overlaps the BB where the seat-tube attaches:

Re TT- yarp, on top of that.

Stiff, strong* and fun. Looks amazing.

*don't dent it. Or dent it and don't worry about denting it!

My Track & Road bike :

Can we have a full frontal of the cougar please?

In fact, it's a Bottechia respray in Neon Yellow and resticked Cougar.

Considers: Monostay Appreciation Thread

Dat ass thread.

I can stand behind that...