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Pompino/Pompetamine? All City Nature Boy?
Does it have to be fixed/ss-specific? If not a Cross Check fits the bottle cage, mudguard, back brake requirements and can be run fixed/ss.
Worth a look in the SSCX thread too, majority if not all those frames probably fit requirements unless you're after a specific geo and don't mind possibly using a 130 or 135 fixed hub.
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Pompino/Pompetamine? All City Nature Boy?
Does it have to be fixed/ss-specific? If not a Cross Check fits the bottle cage, mudguard, back brake requirements and can be run fixed/ss.
Worth a look in the SSCX thread too, majority if not all those frames probably fit requirements unless you're after a specific geo and don't mind possibly using a 130 or 135 fixed hub.
I'll add those. The Nature Boy is potentially a good call, although pooface was selling on cheap recently in my size, so I possibly should have looked more closely at that.
I think fixed/ss specific really, partly because I want a 'proper fixed bike', partly because that helps narrow it down, plus I'm not even sure about forward facing dropouts like on the Tempo.
Why not take your bike you have now to your local framebuilder and have him add all the braze ons you want, then have the bike repainted - got to be cheaper than replacing your current bike with any the frames you have suggested above
I've thought about this a lot, I do love the frame and this could be done fairly cheaply, but I don't think a back brake is going to happen very easily!
Also, I don't know, it could be a bit of a puppy kill..?
There a large touche on bikeradar at the minute
I think personally I'm not very keen on alu, I'd rather have steel. I wouldn't have minded a Cartouche to match my Carbon Audax Pro though!
The point of this list was to help other people though, not just me, as a general principle.
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It has to be said, rear facing ends and mudguard eyes are always going to be a bodge. For that reason, old style forward facing dropouts, with no gear hanger, are pretty much the best idea for a bike such as you describe. So much so, that I reckon chopping the hanger off a half-decent 80s-90s steel roadbike is maybe the best plan. Puppies or no. Or just leave the bloody hanger.
Didn't Condor do a proper single/fixed winter bike a while back, with horizintal dropouts and no hanger? Pretty sure it had two bottle mounts. I can never remember the names of their frames.
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£400ish will get you a custom Steve Goff in Reynolds 531 with all the braze-ons you could desire.
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Nature Boy is great, I love mine.
Fox, you're welcome to take a look.
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It has to be said, rear facing ends and mudguard eyes are always going to be a bodge.
On that front* (and whilst it remains a bodge), Richard Hallett from the comic used SKS quick release mounts on the rear of his fixed mile munching machine.
*Rear?
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Singular could work
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Ha, alu is a plus for me. Give me a cheap light aluminum frame any day over something like a pompino
Yeah, that makes sense. I don't hate alu, I just don't want a harsh ride. I know there are some good alu frames which aren't harsh at all, but I also know they don't tend to be the cheaper ones, AFAIK. I am also aware that the long term fatigue resistance of alu is not as good as steel or carbon.
It has to be said, rear facing ends and mudguard eyes are always going to be a bodge. For that reason, old style forward facing dropouts, with no gear hanger, are pretty much the best idea for a bike such as you describe. So much so, that I reckon chopping the hanger off a half-decent 80s-90s steel roadbike is maybe the best plan. Puppies or no. Or just leave the bloody hanger.
Didn't Condor do a proper single/fixed winter bike a while back, with horizintal dropouts and no hanger? Pretty sure it had two bottle mounts. I can never remember the names of their frames.
Yeah the Condor Tempo, it has forward facing horizontal dropouts and up until 2012 had two bottle mounts, then for some reason in 2013 they reduced it to one. I am a little bit worried about forward facing dropouts if I'm honest, but I have no experience of them so I'm open minded. Rear facing seems intrinsically more secure...
£400ish will get you a custom Steve Goff in Reynolds 531 with all the braze-ons you could desire.
Which is great value when you look at the price of the OTP frames.
Trek Districts are great. I have one coming up for sale soon.
Edit: see you dont like alu, shame. Winners metal!Hmm, there's a left of field suggestion!
Bottle cage mounts - check. Two brakes - check. Carbon - check. Belt drive - check. Stealth fixeh - check. Does it definitely have mudguard mounts though? ;)
Nature Boy is great, I love mine.
Fox, you're welcome to take a look.
So the Nature Boy Zona looks rather special, I have to say.
On that front* (and whilst it remains a bodge), Richard Hallett from the comic used SKS quick release mounts on the rear of his fixed mile munching machine
See to me, that's not a bodge at all really. Funnily enough there's a Pearson Touche just gone for sale on here:
http://www.lfgss.com/thread117340.htmlWhich especially for that price I'd seriously consider, if it was my size. I like the idea of matching road and fixed frames, but here's a detail shot of his rear mudguard mounting:
That doesn't really look like a bodge either to me. My rear mudguard is currently held on with zip ties, and that was a big improvement over P clips. That's a bodge!
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Thanks for all the suggestions so far, I will update the list, just tomorrow...
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You can do a lot better than one of those Touche's.
No offence.
TFG dream machine also fits the bill rather nicely
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And there's also the option of eccentric bb's if you were tempted by carbon
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Fixed/SS frames with TWO sets of bottle bosses, mudguard eyelets AND a back brake
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Who wouldn't want the practicalities of a fixed/SS frame that can hold two bottles, easily take a set of mudguards and give you a back brake for descents when you're tired after riding all day, right? Unfortunately mostly bike manufacturers seem to feel otherwise.
I'm getting a bit bored of strap on bottle cage mounts and mudguard bodges on my Orrell track frame and I'm thinking about alternatives. I've been wanting to build a fixed bike which is fit for (my) purpose for a while. I don't think I can afford to do anything about this right now but I want to decide on my preferred alternative, which could take a while to figure out...
The Condor Tempo was pretty high on the list as a default choice, until I found out the 2013 model only has one set of bottle cage mounts, so that's now out. The Steamroller is out for the same reason.
So, some I've found/others have suggested so far:
I'm sure there are more - any ideas?