Skinny goes Touring. Bike and gear.

Do it. @umop3pisdn

Look at @edscoble pictures of the Pyrenees if you need any more inspiration.

I spent most of yesterday reading the touring equipment and bikepacking threads. Might have to do something.

I've been wondering for a few days whether you can fit a lowrider rack and fork-mounted randonneur at the same time. Looks like you managed it?

@mattioats

I bodged it. I could have fitted it fine, however the struts on the nomad rack are really long and I wanted to keep the weight as low as possible. So I cut off the arms and clamped them to the legs.

But I'll have 4kg max on the rack, and I've pushed it around with a lot of my feeble weight and it's solid.

Going to keep a photo diary.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsk2ai7Wk

Do it while you are still young. Before you know it you'll be surrounded by ankle biters and love handles.

I find it's much easier to recount what happen each day with a photo diary.

Trying to take as little as possible. But still be comfortable for me.

Don't think I can ditch much of this?? I am about on the limit i think.

Kit list

Right: 4.4kg

Food dry bag( as and when bought)

Clothing dry bag;

• rapha club jersey
  
• assos bib short
  
• nano flex bib short (might lose this) Can ride in boxers/shorts if other pair drying
  
• leg warmer
  
• no rain arm warmer
  
• Gabba (could be useful if 15-20deg and rain)
  
• arc'teryx polartec atom jacket
  
• de feet merino glove
  
• rapha merino base layer x3
  
• flip flop (might swap for croc 200g lighter)
  
• utility trouser
  
• ran meco boxers
  
• giro merino socks x2
  
• EDZ merino hat
  
• cap
  
  

Rain dry bag

• goretex jacket
  
• neoprene glove
  
• castelli lightweight overshoes
  
  

Side pocket ziplock

• passport
  
• paperwork
  
• cash
  
• kindle
  
• Tent poles
  
  
  
  
  

Left: 4.5kg

Cooking:

• Alp kit pot
  
• Alp kit mug
  
• Msr pocket rocket
  
• Gas canister
  
• Lighter
  
• alpkit spoon/fork
  
• sharp knife
  
• Olive oil
  
• Salt/pepper
  
• Azera coffee
  
• Scouring pad
  
• swiss army knife
  
  

First aid:

• Ibuprofen gel
  
• Codeine
  
• Steri-strip
  
• Gaffa tape
  
• Antiseptic wipe
  
• Bandages
  
• Blister plaster
  
• Anti-hystamie pills
  
  

Hygiene:

• Toothbrush
  
• Toothpaste
  
• Dry body wash
  
• Wet multipurpose wash
  
• Deodorant
  
• Toilet wipes
  
• Hand moisturiser
  
• Antibacterial hand wash
  
  

Technology:

• Garmin 810
  
• Garmin 800 as backup
  
• 7200ah solar carver
  
• 12000ah battery back
  
• Cables assorted
  
• iPod nano/headphone
  
• iPhone
  
• Nokia brick
  
• Emergency battery charger (takes 10aa battery so circa 1000mah)
  
• Bike light charger
  
• Wall USB charger
  
  

Bike stuff;

• Multi tool
  
• Gear cable
  
• Brake cable
  
• Rubber glove
  
• Puncture patches
  
• Dry Lube
  
• Tent/matt repair kit
  
• Quick link pair x2
  
• Brake pad set
  
  

Separate bag

• Inner tube x3
  
• Lezyne pump
  
• Park tool lever x2
  
• Pinhead key
  
• Lock
  
  

Assorted:

• Bikes lights
  
• Head torch
  
• PAC a backpack - if sudden extra space needed after shop.
  
• Spokes
  
• Maps
  
• Zip ties
  
  
  
  
  
  

Rack bag: 3kg

• Tent; terra nova laser 1
  
• Bivi bag; alp kit hunka
  
• Sleeping bag; mountain hardware phenomen 32
  
• Silk sleeping bag liner
  
• Sleeping Matt: klymit static v
  
  
  

Top tube bag

• daily bike food
  
• stuff not wanted in pockets
  
  
  

Clothing dry bag;

rapha club jersey
assos bib short
nano flex bib short (might lose this) Can ride in boxers/shorts if other pair drying
leg warmer
no rain arm warmer
Gabba (could be useful if 15-20deg and rain)
arc'teryx polartec atom jacket
de feet merino glove
rapha merino base layer x2 (3x is a lots)
flip flop (might swap for croc 200g lighter) croc may be lighter, but does it pack smaller? still worth keeping for travelling back on the plane
utility trouser replace for short
ran meco boxers
giro merino socks x2
EDZ merino hat the cap or the glove? you choose.
cap
Rain dry bag

goretex jacket get rain jacket instead, that can go over your polartec atom jacket, you'll warm up eventually, arm warmer will also be useful.
neoprene glove would says no, but considering some of the mountain descent may required it on a bad day
castelli lightweight overshoes neoprene!
Side pocket ziplock
-passport

paperwork try and store as much as you can on phone as well
cash
-kindle
Tent poles
Left: 4.5kg

Cooking:

Alp kit pot
Alp kit mug
-Msr pocket rocket
-Gas canister
-Lighter
-Olive oil
-Salt/pepper
-Azera coffee
-Scouring pad
First aid: think about which you can easily obtain in shop, such as blister patch instead of carrying them
-Ibuprofen gel
-Codeine Change for cocaine, have fun
-Steri-strip
-Gaffa tape
-Antiseptic wipe
-Bandages
-Blister plaster
-Anti-hystamie pills

Hygiene:

Toothbrush CUT IN HALF - VERY IMPORTANT! LIFE DEPEND ON IT!
Toothpaste get traveller sized one from Boots
Dry body wash
Wet multipurpose wash
Deodorant
Toilet wipes wet wipe is easier, quicker and cleaner
Hand moisturiser might not be necessary
Antibacterial hand wash again, not necessary
Technology:

Garmin 810
Garmin 800 as backup use your mobile as back-up, ditch the 800
7200ah solar carver ditch it, the 12000mAh battery is enough for several charge, you can charge the battery at camp site every once in a while
12000ah battery back
Cables assorted ditch ipod/iphone cable and get micro usb adaptor that other device use
iPod nano/headphone
iPhone
Nokia brick
Emergency battery charger (takes 10aa battery so circa 1000mah) not necessary
Bike light charger
Wall USB charger
Bike stuff;

Multi tool
Gear cable
Brake cable
Rubber glove
Puncture patches
Dry Lube
Tent/matt repair kit
Quick link pair x2
Brake pad set with disc brake, you don't need this
Separate bag

Inner tube x3
Lezyne pump
Park tool lever x2 replace with a single Pedros
Pinhead key
Lock
Assorted:

Bikes lights
Head torch
PAC a backpack - if sudden extra space needed after shop. or a musette
Spokes
Maps **don't take, use Galileo Pro on iPhone, can accept gpx files too, make for secondary nagivation.
Zip ties
Rack bag: 3kg

Tent; terra nova laser 1
Bivi bag; alp kit hunka why bivi when you got tent?
Sleeping bag; mountain hardware phenomen 32
Silk sleeping bag liner
Sleeping Matt: klymit static v
Top tube bag **put heavy stuff in this, inside of triangle is a dead weight, i.e. difficult to feel when riding.

daily bike food
stuff not wanted in pockets

It doesn't show well in grey, but I edit most of the list.

HA!

All the things I was mulling over losing you crossed. So they'll go.

Goretex jacket is a gore one. Just a goretex shell, so yes goes over the polartec jacket.

And toothbrush is this one; hygenic

If you go for shorts over trousers try and get some merino longjohns (possibly instead of boxers). Stop mosquito bites and really good for sleeping in.

Just lost 1.4kg wit suggestions ed.

Yeah, that's a thought laner. I've some uniqlo longjohns or some compression tights. Will think.

This, I have thermal legging, it also great to sleep in so your legs doesn't feel sticky inside the sleeping bag.

Occasionally I wear it like a boxer and put a short on.

One more suggestion, and a very important one.

Gearing, going over the mountain mean your gearing may feel pretty hard with the extra weight, a 34/28-30 or even 34/32 would save your knees.

Yeah. Got 34x28.

They don't do 12-30 which would have been nice.
If 28 isn't enough i'll stop and get 11-32 in basel after crossing Jura.

28 should be alright. 34x28 is about 39x32 as I was okay last year even up steeper gradients with about 5kg more weight.

I reckon 34/28 is enough, especially with the 11 speed groupset.

If I can just about managed it with 36/28 previously on half of the Pyrenees climb, then you should more than easily cope with 34/28, I'm a mere mortal, not those Pro.

I'm jealous, I don't want to be home, it's too cold.

Hope you don't mind the suggestions but I always find a Buff versatile and useful to replace cap etc

Also I have recently got a multi port USB adapter thing as I always seem to have more than one USB device to charge when in a cafe/bar etc

Yeah, I looking for my buff but it's vanished. So unless it turns up. As you say, it's useful!

You haven't listed a spare tyre so def. take a tyre boot. On a short weekend tour earlier this year, my carrying a couple of the Park Tool ones meant my riding partner could limp on with a gash in his tyre. They weigh nothing but can be super useful to allow you to ride on as far as a shop!

Second thing - if you follow Ed's advice to pack a small backpack, buy an Alpkit Gourdon. They are cheap and light and as a dry bag / rucksack are incredibly versatile. The back pad is removable to sit on if you are stopped somewhere and in the event of a different bit of your kit failing, you can carry stuff easily.

Good thinking, I took a spare tyres as 650b, despite not uncommon, are hard to find in france.

Spoke key? Travel towel?

I got a ultrasil stuff backpack already from before, scrunches down to my thumb size!

Yeah, no spare tyre. Got some gaffa tape wrapped around cardboard, so that'd do the job. I guess.

Spoke key on multool. To be the pumb with spokes and no spoke key!! ha

Yes got a tiny towel to dry and tiny face cloth to was with. Worked well last year, just pour water on it and soap and then use to wash. Really refreshing.

To be fair, when I got a cut on my tyres, the beauty of disc is that I can wrap the gaffa tape round the rims and tyres to stop it from getting worse.

Yo @edscoble don't need spare pads huh!?