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I’m doing a sustained power plan, which has 3 rides a week. But with daily commutes (which I’m terrible at using for active recovery) and a long weekend ride, I’m struggling with fatigue. I’m sure it’s mostly work/life related as things are busy right now. Just bored of feeling done in.

I'd rather feel tired from training than from the cold I think is creeping into my battered body. I was up early this morning for first gym session after crash and I think my RHR was like 80! I looked at phone hoping coachiepoos was going to call it off. No luck. I do feel better for it (mostly stretching with some super super easy lifts) but I really just want to go to bed and wake up with my bikes fixed.

If you're tired try to find ways to back off on the commute. Remember your turbo sessions. Every time someone passes think "I'm doing focused training tonight, don't chase, I'll be faster when it counts!" or build a singlespeed fat bike to try and slow you down (it didn't work) or ride a stupidly low geared dual suss singlespeed with wide bars (better because I can't go through any gaps to keep speed up). I used to count stuff to force me to concentrate on the counting rather than racing every fucker.

Also as I get older and wiser I recognise work and life stress has an impact on training motivation and I just don't push it when shit's going down.

Wise words and I’ll try to do just that.

I hope the bangs heal soon. Cheers

Anyone got a referral code? Ta!

I've got a few! PM me a name and email address and I'll send it over

So what’s a reasonable weekly TSS?

String, piece of, length.

Entirely depends on what you are training for and how much time you have to train.

Well first goal is to get back to FTP of ~270 from ~220.
This seems like it might be achievable in perhaps 8 weeks at a TSS of about 175

Although I have no idea how to try calculate anything though...

FTP of ~270 from ~220

That seems like a big jump. Was your previous FTP taken from a powermeter, or virtual power?

You can't really compare virtual power figures between two different trainers.

My answer is I don’t know it was on a Watt bike and Kickr core.
It’s possible either measurement aren’t that accurate but my thinking was it was only a few months ago and I think may have suffered from doing longer less intense rides than anything else.
Like I say I’m pretty new to training with power just trying to work out a suitable structure

I'd say take what you now have, and improve it. Forget about what your previous might have been :-)

Otherwise, you won't see it as improvement, so much as "I'm still not back at 270 yet!"

Yeah not a bad idea I’m hoping first few weeks will see a significant jump once getting used to the intensity again and then it’ll be back to the serious hard work

Dig out their blog on ramp rate, the actual TSS number is pretty arbitrary but how much you try to grow it each week (and periodic rest) is way more important so you don't burn out.

Ok I’ll try find that thanks

Why not start on sweet spot base, low or medium depending on your available time? The main benefit of TR for me is the fact they work out all that stuff for you.

I usually do a longer weekend ride instead of the Sat one so my TSS is higher than the plan I’m on, but it’s not as good in terms of quality.

I just bang in a TR plan and do it when I can. My main training is outside TR so it's just a gap filler for me and the numbers are largely irrelevant.

Ditched Zwift after an underwhelming month. Back on TR, opened with a ramp test. 320W result means a long way to get back to the 370 reading from March.

Good to be back on TR though, so much better than Zwift

Anyone got any go-to sub-hour rides that are particularly fun/effective? I can’t commit to a plan at the moment, but have been able to consistently extend my morning commute to an hour, so am collecting gap-fillers. This one was quite good, but seemed a bit easy, so may need to re-ramp.

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Echo is a sweet spot one that’s pretty tough. If I recall correctly

my go to is carson 45 and adams when im struggling for time.

I’m coming to the end of a free month trial, if someone has a code can I just use it with the same profile or does it need new email??

New email/account I believe

Presumably you can get the sweet spot & threshold stuff done on the commute..turn the dial up and do VO2 workouts. Have a browse through the sessions under maintenance for ideas
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/plans/category/23-enthusiast

Did Kern last week
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/workouts/3172-kern
Doing Gawler this week
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/workouts/270797-gawler

I asked about this a while back and think I have now found a solution. My kickr was reporting around 50km per 1 hr turbo ride when uploaded to Strava and although it's ultimately meaningless, my old turbo seemed a bit more realistic with distances of between 20 and 30km.

Now on the Wahoo app you can select 'Erg Mode Speed Simulation' and it reports a much more 'realistic' distance and speed, based on power and cadence, not just on the flywheel speed. It has no effect on TR.

I know indoor distance is not really a thing, but when quickly comparing seasons on strava, it is quite useful.

Why not measure time on the turbo if you want a comparison? Or TSS if you have power. Or kj, likewise or I dunno anything else really?