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  • I bought mine from there a few years ago, seemed legit - £800

  • mate, look at the forks

  • and the bridge by the chain stays

  • I bought mine from there a few years ago, seemed legit - £800

    trolling .. ? !

  • oh my, do you think its a fake?

  • give the bubble in certain Italian bikes resale prices, i would not buy the 'sport' model as there is too much uncertainty in it's authenticity

    totally agree...

  • Who fucking cares if they are Colnago or Colner or bloody Colargol.
    The look gash.

    Would you buy boot cut Armani jeans from TK Maxx, because the have labels on them?

  • Niall of Retrospective bikes is a laid back Ulster-man, he's a good friend of mine and a really nice guy! I have loads of time for him, but I am sad to say that I saw these frames a while a go and they simply don't have the lug work and finer detail of an authentic Colnago and I thought it wouldn't be long before a debate on this forum would raise the question of what's for sale of that website. At the most they are maybe Colner's or Colnago Sport which are the cheaper frames but not for me (as mentioned by Saarf and Peter v). I have bought some top bikes and frames from Niall so please don't tuck into him... Great guy to deal with...!

  • Niall of Retrospective bikes is a laid back Ulster-man, he's a good friend of mine and a really nice guy! I have loads of time for him, but I am sad to say that I saw these frames a while a go and they simply don't have the lug work and finer detail of an authentic Colnago and I thought it wouldn't be long before a debate on this forum would raise the question of what's for sale of that website. At the most they are maybe Colner's or Colnago Sport which are the cheaper frames but not for me (as mentioned by Saarf and Peter v). I have bought some top bikes and frames from Niall so please don't tuck into him... Great guy to deal with...!

    ditto...he brings back stock in good faith and there are some gems to be found, always had great chats and had some excellent deals in the past...unfortunately as a seller you are supposed to be 'an expert' which may not always be the case, there's a line between deception and lack of knowledge.

  • I would by clothes from tkmaxx cause you can get decent clothes for a reasonable price including branded products!

    would you buy boot cut Armani jeans from TK Maxx, because the have labels on them?

    But there not if they're gash

  • ditto...he brings back stock in good faith and there are some gems to be found, always had great chats and had some excellent deals in the past...unfortunately as a seller you are supposed to be 'an expert' which may not always be the case, there's a line between deception and lack of knowledge.

    I wished no malice against the vendors, more to highlight from a buyers perspective,
    I would have to question their judgement if they bought 4 bikes of questionable integrity unwittingly, the prices being asked led me to assume they are market savvy as they are at the higher end of the spectrum

  • I bought mine from there a few years ago, seemed legit - £800

    erm, I don't recall Niall selling this?

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    think the pic is some one's attempt at wit

  • Would you buy boot cut Armani jeans from TK Maxx, because the have labels on them?

    would love to but they're always snapped up by black leather jacket wearing forrins

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    think the pic is some one's attempt at wit

    ah, slow brain here :(

  • would love to but they're always snapped up by black leather jacket wearing forrins

    Sorry, I only see white guys wearing motorbike leathers in TK Maxx. You probably meant Ed Hardy.
    Boot cut jeans should be banned when combined with those loooong white loafers,

  • hey Saarf,

    No one's pointing any fingers and the point you are making are very valid... good thread and good debate, but Niall is a great guy and good person to deal with...

    Abraço!

    cc

    I wished no malice against the vendors, more to highlight from a buyers perspective,
    I would have to question their judgement if they bought 4 bikes of questionable integrity unwittingly, the prices being asked led me to assume they are market savvy as they are at the higher end of the spectrum

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    cheers, glad it's a good debate and not a mass one

    ;-)

  • Oh... I'll pop this away then. My bad.

  • Back in the 1970s there were a number of very poor quality Colnagos sold in the US. They were of such mediocre build quality that Ernesto claimed they were counterfeits--- I actually sat behind Ernesto on a flight many many years ago but we chated about cycling sport and not his frames. There was little to believe that they were not. Aparently there was a real mess in the distribution channels and with the "Italian bike boom" blazing--- Colnagos were in the 1970s what Rolex watches were in the 1980s... I have heard a number of stories about the fakes but with subcontracting and the Italian tradition to copy--- who said it was a Chinese thing--- its hard to spot the truth... The mass of fakes and some not-so-stellar real Colnagos nearly knocked them off the map for a while...

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    gold

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