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^No worries - what did you end up doing for a hub?
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Photos of the Surly Kit, shafted bearings removed from the hub after just 8000miles and the rear hub with new bearings and surly kit cones (dust-caps removed for clarity). -
^ Good solutions all-round, always admired Goldtec, they look to be rock-hard and have a good reputation (as well as being UK Plc)
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That being said I just saw this
running these on my steamroller. cogs available too from the same shop.
Looks to be perfect, sealed bearings, female axles, black or silver and they make matching front PLUS £95 delivered for a pair!
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thanks Pat.
Always glad of your approval. what are you up to at the mo? any progress with the Dawes?
You doing L'erotica this year? Benji got in again. I'll probably try again next year. ..:0)
I'm still just getting as much riding as my rubbish rota will allow in.... I've given the dawes a rudimentary clean, but that's as far as I have got....I'm hoping to do a bit next week and I'll try to document it for a thread on here....I normally forget to though!
I'm not going for L'eroica this year.....I did the long one 2 years ago and the 135 last year, but was ill on the morning and spent a lot of time being violently sick.....it put me off a bit, but never say never!im thinking of having another go next year.....I might look into driving the old vw camper down...the tent wasn't much fun with the rain! -
^Ah yes, Benj saw you looking a bit green on the start-line.
Keep me posted on your next-year plans - If you do take the van and are looking for a co-driver/cook/map-reader......! -
cheers russ. workshop time's always an issue. i did all the work on the Bob during my lunchbreaks (down in the lab in my shirt & tie). same story with riding. .. extended commutes & the occasional early Sunday morning
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^ er yes, unfortunately things are moving at the usual glacial pace, but I completed drawing package for 3 chainrings (47T test sample + 48T for ClockworkKilla + 51T for Bob Rat) and also for the Jig/tool paths and submitted to machine shop for quote.
Update on the Gitane - I needed a quick cash injection and put it up for sale the other day (sale thread here - it sold in about 10mins)
As far as I know, the new owner is LucyH - hope she enjoys it and doesn't let indra & chums trash it!
Lessons learned from this biek:
Big wide bars so hot right now, but really not practical - I hit about 10 wing mirrors in 2weeks of traffic filtering!
skinny steel frames are super flexy - I could see the BB swinging around down there and I'm more Victoria Pendleton than Chris Hoy..... Nice on big milages though, I've been pretty ill lately and the Duratec would probably have killed me on the longer days....Anyway, I was planning to replace the Gitane with another super-rad beater, but ended up with an interesting little anecdote instead...
Bought a hacksawed up frame here on the forum a few weeks ago for £5. Here are the sellers photos:
I know it's not really in the spirit of this thread to keep buying new frames, but anyway, I got home and discovered it was a re-painted Leader 735
When I took Mistral chainring drawings to the machineshop I brought the frame to see if they had any good contacts - I was directed to a weld shop near Heathrow T5 - they welded stays back on for £20 and did a mighty fine job.
I was speaking to Indra the next day for Gitane handover & mentioned this Leader - he said it was painted by René (of rusty Kagero!!! fame)
I contacted René to check whether it was stolen and if not, why was it hacksawed? and did he mind me building new super-rat?
He said it was his mk1 Motor_reeen - long story but when the seattube failed, BLB gave him PX on a Kagero and said to have the 735 back it would need to be disabled.
They chopped it with a hacksaw and when he showed up to collect it they said it had mysteriously disappeared. He was very keen to have it back and reimburse my costs!Being a great fan of those who put personality into bikes it was clear that he was the rightful owner - he was delighted to have it back so it's back where it belongs.
Last night we met up in Soho for handover/beer. Most enjoyable, and Motoreeen kagero is extraordinary in the flesh...
René is a gent and a true enthusiast - I wish him all the best with the painting and sincerely hope the world gets to see a lot more of his 2-wheeled Apocolyptic visions.
For the time being I shall be rat-biek free! lets see how long I can keep that up.
I'll post some pictures of the welded seatstays when I get home
Here's the motör reeen leader in all it's glory.
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cheers chaps.
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^ I've 2 sacred cows that don't get dicked about with so I'm fine for transportation.... This thread covers my unrelenting fickleness for side projects, vintage bikes and beaters!
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^ If you search for keyword "motor" in classifieds you'll find the ad.
Seller seemed straight enough to me....
I asked if he thought the frame was hot and he said he understood the chopping was done at a friend's bike shop at the request of the frame manufacturer - which turns out to be true. -
Weld details
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Duratec is once again the everyday sports-utility biek - compared to Gitane it's ludicrously fast and rather brutal. Duratec webpage states...
"Sprinter frame is used by a Sports Club of Prostejov coached by Vladimír Vackár whose charges reach excellent results on the track.
Thanks to its very high firmness and rigidity achieved by usage of aero-profiles in individual tubes, the racer's force exerted on the pedal is transferred with almost one hundred percent efficiency"
Be that as it may, I would also add that the bumpyness of cobblestones/crap surfaces is transferred with almost 100% efficiency into your tired body...
Later in the blurb, the manufacturer states...
"We recommend equipping it with carbon components"
With this in mind I acquired some FACT forks from Barry1987 here on the forum and some matt black viny wrap for £1.80 on the ebay.
I've never vinyl-wrapped before but I understand it's all the rage these days, so I thought I'd give it a go, particularly as I don't really fancy sanding down the crabons for rattlecanning...
On the whole I'm delighted with the effect, although around the fork crown there are a couple of bits that look like Nora Batty's stockings.
Hey presto smooth ride - I also cleaned the bike and am on the hunt for a layback carbon seatpost to fulfill managers recommendations.
Here it is this morning.
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Mild thread de-rail re: ISO-disc hubs bolt-on disc-coggery.
(Vaguely on-topic - used one on the Gitane).
Reason for de-rail is that replacement bearings arrived for Duratec rear wheel so I'll be stripping/rebuilding - more of that later.
Had a flurry of PM communications with Spotter a few weeks back when he was investigating all this, much of it was news to him so I'll reiterate it here & put it in the public domain.
The established ways of implementing bolt-on cog are....
A couple of years back when I built this wheel I didn't have cash for options 1&3 but wanted sealed cartridge bearings/moar sexiness than option 2....
I took the plunge and bought a 10mm DH hub on the basis that it can't be beyond the whit of man to get it working....
When I dismantled, I found it was pressed together - cartridge bearing OD pressed in housing, ID on plain aluminium axle.
On my axle (DaBomb) dust covers & "lock nuts" screwed onto coarse threads on axle enabling pre-load. These were locked in place with a grub screw - on hope hubs they tend to be pressed in place and locked on with grub screws.
The way I got DaBomb to work with M10 threaded rear axle was with some Surly "cones" donated on an old hub I got from Butters of this parish.
Surly "cones" are a pair of flanged sleeves of correct tolerance to give tight fit with the Inner Diameter of cartridge bearing. The official name is surly rear hub hardware kit
These sleeves are threaded so they screw onto an M10x1.0 mtb rear axle. The flanges push the inner race of bearings into hub housing to pre-load.
I've then used standard M10 x 1.0 axle/locknuts/spacers to prevent sleeves unscrewing or tightening and re-space hub from 100-120mm OLN.
This method enables you to convert any front MTB ISO hub that takes a "6001" cartridge bearing (12x28x8mm) - list of common bearing sizes here
The 6001 2rs (2RS means it's fitted with rubber seals) was a standard for XC and early DH/Suspension specific front ISO Hubs - e.g. Hope Mono Suspension and Hope XC Sport, Ringle, DMR, White Industries etc - stuff that came out before 20mm monster bolt-through front hubs.
One potential headache might be getting your mitts on the Surly kit - I've not tried procuring one, so I don't know how easy it'd be - anyone working a bike shop able to confirm whether it's something held by UK distributors??
If this proves a pain, I've also developed a DIY approach - cutting the 2 relevant sections from the original axle and tapping an M10x1.0 thread - more hassle but at least there's a guarantee of a quick outcome.
The replacement bearings I chose are 6001 2RS by Koyo, bought from simplybearings. The ones that came out are cheap crap sold with the hubs - with a bit of luck the Koyo will last a few more miles!!!
The bearings were stuffed after 2 crappy winters, 18mths ~ 8000miles
Piss poor if you ask me (that said, till I moved house in the summer the Duratec and its predecessor Harry O lived outdoors...)