Ingria Bicycles

I did moment after I wrote the above comment.

Great, I did one time, their english was... special

Well, i wrote to them a long ago and now. Price 500 euros sounds good, ok, they simply ignore questions about geometry, sure I sent them my height, inner leg. Don't know if inner leg says anything to them, because I rode 58cm Track Champ, but they suggested 55cm Ingria frame.
Then I got quote for shipping and used tax calculator(pricing may differ in UK) and price of just frame sums up to 730 euros, and I think I will better wait for something to pop on forum, because I don't know anything about geometry.
*that's probably the reason why there aren't many Ingria's in Europe.
**90 euro - shipping to Latvia
140 euro - tax and stuff

ouch ! More expensive than a custom aluminium orlowski shipped

I find these even less tempting than a Mielec, and that is saying something!

No geometry sheet, no sales.

I really wouldn't like to put my trust in someone calculating the frame size I need (I'm looking at you Canyon).

I enquired a while back and i got this, this was in May though so it's a bit dated:

"Hey! It's just fantastic, that we have finaly managed to push to Europe. Because it was a really hard way!

So, the lowest price is 490Euro, including pouder framepainting (you may choose colors in RAL catalogue), integrated seat lock, taxes, fairs and delivery cost.

Technical charts:

Wheel base: 95sm, if fork rake 4.5sm,

Head tube angle 76'.

Seat tube angle 76'.
BB bsa.

Seat stay 27,2, fork 1,1/8

Best regards. "

I get the sense they have a framebuilder and they have a sales guy and the two don't really talk, which is a shame because 1.3-1.4kg is light and welds etc. look decent. If they made one with a horizontal top tube and slightly longer headtube i think i'd bight the bullet and go for it but for now ed's right, no geo sheet, no sales...

76! that explain why master was recommended the 55cm.

So, the lowest price is 490Euro, including pouder framepainting (you may choose colors in RAL catalogue), integrated seat lock, taxes, fairs and delivery cost.

What about this? Who said this?
I had a e-mail conversation with Aleksandr Privalnjev

I need this

looks like a toy.
I have the impression they liked the mondrian colour scheme of look

Decals at top of seat tube have been applied by a drunk Russian.

Maybe he took inspiration from this?

Hello
I'm looking for one of this, does some one order?

hello. is this dog?

weeks turned to months. i got this photo via email today

at this rate i'll get it some time in 2015. communication with ingria turns out to be very tedious as responses are only sporadic and incomplete, 3/10 probably wouldn't order again.

OT but just in case anyone cares ~

so i just picked up the frame from customs of almost one year of waiting. had to pay 140€ on top of the 500€ (+70€ shipping), frame came with a LOT of damages in the paint. overall i'm grateful that the wait is over but im still very disappointed in the paintjob, the handling and build quality. the paint is often rough, theres dust/dirt under the paint and the welding is some of the worst i have ever seen and it makes the tubing feel bumpy as fuck.

2/10 wouldn't recommend

What a load of donkey wank...

Shit man, that look really bad, even the Dolan look better.

700 euros and that is what you get. I feel sorry for you. :/
Thank god customs put me of buying it.

what's with the track ends?

looks worse than a Mielec

looks worse than a Mielec

yap pretty fucked up an feel so sorry for this dude

I'm not surprised given how little they give about their geometry, they were extremely vague about it.

so there will be no more orders from ingria and you can close this thread.

people just ordering new cool stuff based on most aggressive lo-pro geo, fancy colors and expensive build-ups. time to learn based on expensive investments.

I'm from Russia, this approach is unacceptable.
If you need any help/ assistance , please let me know.