Back to blue?

Isn't it time to turn the logo back to blue Velocio?
(Instead of the usual pm bumping this thread will remind you)

https://www.lfgss.com/thread110403.html

Wednesday

there have been a few this week

RIP

I quite like the idea of having the logo black - a reminder to be careful and a little bit of respect to cyclists who haven't been as lucky as us on the roads.

I do not like it. APart from the fact it represents a death, it also dangerises cycling and (like ghost bikes) may put people of riding

https://www.lfgss.com/thread110403.html

Wednesday

I thought the logo only turns black for deaths in London?

Me too

(Were I to die on my bike in a crash I would not want a black logo here nor a ghost bike put up)

I do not like it. APart from the fact it represents a death, it also dangerises cycling and (like ghost bikes) may put people of riding

I'm with you 100% on ghost bikes.

I thought the logo only turns black for deaths in London?

http://www.lfgss.com/thread110179.html

Well, I'm obviously aware of that one. I was only commenting on bothwell referencing a non-London death with the seeming implication that it gave a reason for keeping the logo black. (I remember that the logo stays black for a week after a London death.)

3 days I thought or until vb remembersbtobchangetbit back to blue

Time yet?

Thanks Velocio.
Long may it remain blue

time?

^ it's only been 4 days, so not this time.

Time now?
Seems so long

Question:
Say I ride to work every day and one day I decided to walk. I get knocked over and die. Because I was a pedestrian k(si) that day, would I be commemorated - mourned with a black logo ? No...

We all use the road in different ways. This black logo is pretty crude. Its segregationist. I mean no disrespect and also feel affinity with people who choose 2 wheels but this (and ghost bikes) worry me

(Saying that the db record here of riders down is important)

It's an interesting point skydancer, however all sorts of communities celebrate, mourn or otherwise single-out those affiliated with them in ways that to an outsider looking in may seem excessive or odd or not not very important. All of these are reasonable and normal reactions as the people outside the community don't have a frame of reference to understand it. However it can be very valuable to the community itself - and the people singled out - that these practices take place. To me the black logo is up in respect to the fallen rider, but it is also (and maybe I'm going on a limb here) a way for us to mourn a bit together. Sometimes I think the rider down thread is the only sincere thread on the site. Anyway I don't see it as a way to exclude others but rather a way to recognise that many of us care deeply about the same things and that we are (in some ways) united.

it's an interesting point skydancer, however all sorts of communities celebrate, mourn or otherwise single-out those affiliated with them in ways that to an outsider looking in may seem excessive or odd or not not very important. All of these are reasonable and normal reactions as the people outside the community don't have a frame of reference to understand it. However it can be very valuable to the community itself - and the people singled out - that these practices take place. To me the black logo is up in respect to the fallen rider, but it is also (and maybe i'm going on a limb here) a way for us to mourn a bit together. Sometimes i think the rider down thread is the only sincere thread on the site. Anyway i don't see it as a way to exclude others but rather a way to recognise that many of us care deeply about the same things and that we are in (in some ways) united.

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It's an interesting point skydancer, however all sorts of communities celebrate, mourn or otherwise single-out those affiliated with them in ways that to an outsider looking in may seem excessive or odd or not not very important. All of these are reasonable and normal reactions as the people outside the community don't have a frame of reference to understand it. However it can be very valuable to the community itself - and the people singled out - that these practices take place. To me the black logo is up in respect to the fallen rider, but it is also (and maybe I'm going on a limb here) a way for us to mourn a bit together. Sometimes I think the rider down thread is the only sincere thread on the site. Anyway I don't see it as a way to exclude others but rather a way to recognise that many of us care deeply about the same things and that we are in (in some ways) united.

^this. I'd add that I don't think that the black logo does dangerise cycling. LFGSS regulars are unlikely to be put off cycling by tragic news about other cyclists, while passing visitors to the site are unlikely to even notice the colour change so it won't put them off (it took me several months of coming here to work out what it is all about).

The LFGSS response to cycling injuries and fatalies on the road is admirably sincere, proportionate and does not degenerate into (or is clearly separated from) speculation and blaming. I have seen it referred to very positively on other cycling forums. I understand your desire not to "dangerise" cycling, but I think this thread probably does more to that end than the black logo itself and I find the haste to revert it to blue slightly distasteful.

The LFGSS response to cycling injuries and fatalies on the road is admirably sincere, proportionate and does not degenerate into (or is clearly separated from) speculation and blaming. I have seen it referred to very positively on other cycling forums. I understand your desire not to "dangerise" cycling, but I think this thread probably does more to that end than the black logo itself and I find the haste to revert it to blue slightly distasteful.

Fair point.

I know bumping this thread can be seen as slightly distasteful haste. (though not sure why this thread is dangerising)

I know velocio is busy and sometimes needs a nudge to change the logo. I am not sure if we have a fixed time for it to be black. Would be good to agree this finally.

Fair point.

I know bumping this thread can be seen as slightly distasteful haste. (though not sure why this thread is dangerising)

Only in that it draws the attention of passing visitors to the black logo, whereas they might not otherwise realise what it means.

I know velocio is busy and sometimes needs a nudge to change the logo. I am not sure if we have a fixed time for it to be black. Would be good to agree this finally.
I think it's more important for it to go black when appropriate (never again, we hope!) than for it to return to blue after a strictly defined time.

Time?

Definitely. As a mark of respect to the fallen for whom the black represents.

Back to rainbow? I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere I haven't seen.