Colnago Esamexico Pista '88

was this at the surplace pista exhibition in Amsterdam?

yes it was

are you part of the sur place collective?
it was a great exhibition, even had the track
http://www.mediamatic.net/135402/nl/sur-place

no i am not, i just lent out my bike to the exhibition, the indoor track was fun though :)

i nearly wiped out )
they should do more shit like that in Amsterdam

the frame is very tight allready, with the bulge a little bit too tight, (frame was little bit bent when i bought it but i had never noticed it) i hope it can be corrected without having to replace the tubes cos they are really hard to get, i tried.

Did you ever try to straighten it out?

I always thought that ESA Columbus tubing was straight SL that got crimped by the buildmaster and that there really weren't any tubes manufactured like that. Or is ESA just Gilco tubing with more crimps?

I always thought that ESA Columbus tubing was straight SL that got crimped by the buildmaster and that there really weren't any tubes manufactured like that.

Columbus manufactured the tubes like that, the builder builds the frames, does not do any crimping. I know this because a friend of mine has a couple of crimped tube sets from Columbus

If need be, does he wants to sell one of them?

i never tried to straighten it out, i tried to get replacement tubes, bought another frame with the same tubes (cornello i think the frame was) but the tubes were not long enough, after that i kind of lost interest as i dont ride a trackbike anymore. I can imagine if you had the right tools it can be bent back but not sure how safe that is going to be

what about contacting cornelo/Henk kokke? perhaps they have surplus,
the Cornelo crimped steel wasn't sl columbus though I think

i never tried to straighten it out, i tried to get replacement tubes, bought another frame with the same tubes (cornello i think the frame was) but the tubes were not long enough, after that i kind of lost interest as i dont ride a trackbike anymore. I can imagine if you had the right tools it can be bent back but not sure how safe that is going to be

If the lugs aren't cracked or any other structural damage is present then it's pretty safe I guess. And yeah, I'm taking it straight to a local bike builder with 25+ years of experience to check it out. If he says no chance I'll have to ride it with 19c tyres. ;)

http://www.vintagepista.com/2008/07/new-postnew-warehousenew-garage.html

i think the frame is hanging there

what about contacting cornelo/Henk kokke? perhaps they have surplus,
the Cornelo crimped steel wasn't sl columbus though I think

Cornelo has four crimps on the tube right?

saarf, it was a c18 i had bought for the replacement tubes, and they were 6 crimps too, but looked a little bit different

http://www.vintagepista.com/2008/07/new-postnew-warehousenew-garage.html

i think the frame is hanging there

Ha, found that yesterday actually. Sent him an email but no reply back.

saarf, it was a c18 i had bought for the replacement tubes, and they were 6 crimps too, but looked a little bit different

Interesting, how did they look different?

where the crimping started it was a little bit more sharp, the columbus went a little bit more smooth into the crimp if i remember correctly

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I hope your doing this pearl white.

I hate you.

Cornelo has four crimps on the tube right?

here's one they made earlier
http://www.lfgss.com/thread105357.html#post3558665
i counted and tt. ,st and dt all have 6 crimps

If need be, does he wants to sell one of them?

They're crimped but they're not the ESA ones you'd be after, and besides I think he would, if at all, sell them as a complete set to build a frame

^ Understandable.

I hate you.

Ha, do it!

Pearlescent white would look sweet as!

Ha, do it!

I was thinking deep blue with silver flakes and yellow decals.