The day that Thatcher died

^^^ & ^^ = facepalm

Let's move on. Let's remember the sinking of a big boat in a cold ocean. And the hypocrisy of berating the french for selling weapons.

I suggest you study the history of the Falklands, Galtieri's Argentina, and its spurious claim upon them, as well as the events preceding and subsequent to the sinking of the General Belgrano before you spout such revisionist shite about a war that was over before you were even conceived.

Not a lot of tolerance here for people born to middle class families in the south is there...

Anyone who dares to disagree with the anti-Thatcher invective is labeled a cunt. Charming.

American cunt labellers

My PM just now to uber_doofer:

Hey fella, you've done nothing but bitch at me over the Thatcher thread and I've not bitten back (I think!). However, if you go to forum drinks at all let me know which, I'd be happy to meet you for a friendly pint. Typed words can often be misconstrued. Ta ah.

And her reply:

You're a fucking mental.

You've purposely gone out to troll-and admitted as much-and come across as a sanctimonius, condescending cunt. Me bitch at you? Take a look at your own posts. And why the fuck are you now trying to play the decent, moderate guy and dangling some kind of virtual olive branch as if that (again) gives you claim to some kind of moral superiority? I can happily accommodate alternative viewpoints, I can't accommodate people thinking they get to purse their lips and play the grandee for the sake of hearing their own voice-it's just morbid narcissism and all you are trying to do is get attention.

This is me saying no, I have no interest in meeting you for a friendly pint but I'm sure your phone is ringing off the hook so this won't trouble you.

Charming - what I was trying to do was heal a rift with someone who had clearly taken massive exception to my stance that Thatcher while now dead probably shouldn't have her grave danced on. However, uber_doofer if ever you feel like coming out from behind your keyboard there's a pint with your name on it. Can't say fairer than that.

Try us. What was actually good about her?

Probably helped a lot of men not to come too early.

Probably helped a lot of men not to come too early.

If that image helped when she was alive......

Try us. What was actually good about her?

Not a lot. My point wasn't to defend her just to point out that anyone who does is labeled a cunt.

I'm all about tolerance, see...

Not a lot of tolerance here for people born to middle class families in the south is there...

Anyone who dares to disagree with the anti-Thatcher invective is labeled a cunt. Charming.

People are losing their disability benefits, squaddies with brain damage from fighting in Afghanistan told they are malingerers and fit for work, but pity the poor middle class southerners who are being told they are selfish cunts.

cunt

yeah yeah repost blah

If that image helped when she was alive......

I'm torn between my disgust at her and my attraction to corpses.

Van Uden if you want to say something why don't you just keep it public instead of your shifty little PMs?

please publicise

People are losing their disability benefits, squaddies with brain damage from fighting in Afghanistan told they are malingerers and fit for work, but pity the poor middle class southerners who are being told they are selfish cunts.

Quit whining you cunt

People are losing their disability benefits, squaddies with brain damage from fighting in Afghanistan told they are malingerers and fit for work, but pity the poor middle class southerners who are being told they are selfish cunts.

Like I said, you'd love Rod Liddle.

He really is a cunt.

I suggest you study the history of the Falklands, Galtieri's Argentina, and its spurious claim upon them, as well as the events preceding and subsequent to the sinking of the General Belgrano before you spout such revisionist shite about a war that was over before you were even conceived.

I'm 38. My dad went away for a bit in 1982.

Next.

My PM just now to uber_doofer:

Hey fella, you've done nothing but bitch at me over the Thatcher thread and I've not bitten back (I think!). However, if you go to forum drinks at all let me know which, I'd be happy to meet you for a friendly pint. Typed words can often be misconstrued. Ta ah.

And her reply:

You're a fucking mental.

You've purposely gone out to troll-and admitted as much-and come across as a sanctimonius, condescending cunt. Me bitch at you? Take a look at your own posts. And why the fuck are you now trying to play the decent, moderate guy and dangling some kind of virtual olive branch as if that (again) gives you claim to some kind of moral superiority? I can happily accommodate alternative viewpoints, I can't accommodate people thinking they get to purse their lips and play the grandee for the sake of hearing their own voice-it's just morbid narcissism and all you are trying to do is get attention.

This is me saying no, I have no interest in meeting you for a friendly pint but I'm sure your phone is ringing off the hook so this won't trouble you.

Charming - what I was trying to do was heal a rift with someone who had clearly taken massive exception to my stance that Thatcher while now dead probably shouldn't have her grave danced on. However, uber_doofer if ever you feel like coming out from behind your keyboard there's a pint with your name on it. Can't say fairer than that.

quoted for posterity so you can reflect on what a massive bell end you are.

I think we've had more than enough evidence already.

I'm 38. My dad went away for a bit in 1982.

Next.

Possibly the best come back for a while. Niall, you just got spanked, in a big way.

And I really don't think you can say Da..Chalfie's take on the Belgrano is revisionist in the slightest, irrespective of whether you agree with it.

I'm torn between my disgust at her and my attraction to corpses.

Well now you can flip between the two however the need arises, bonus

A list?
Good things Thatcher has done

1. Helped men not come to early
   
2. Role model for women
   
   

Bad thinks Thatcher has done

1. Snatched milk from kids
   
2. Sold the national state assets
   
3. Destroyed trade unions
   
4. Destroyed british manufacturing industry
   
5. Tarmaced over the UK
   
6. Introduced a poll tax
   7.
   

From FB

My favourite one of the day from Twitter. "Maybe Danny Boyle's Olympic Opening Ceremony has been going for months and it only reached its obvious climax this morning."

I like how this brings us all together. Maybe if old Liz pops her clogs tonight we can have some proper fisticuffs tomorrow.

From other areas of the internet:

Margaret Thatcher was the most divisive and polarising politic leader of the last century. This is an incomplete list of why many of us fall on the side that does not regard her with anything other than odium…

1. She supported the retention of capital punishment
   
2. She destroyed the country's manufacturing industry
   
3. She voted against the relaxation of divorce laws
   
4. She abolished free milk for schoolchildren ("Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher")
   
5. She supported more freedom for business (and look how that turned out)
   
6. She gained support from the National Front in the 1979 election by pandering to the fears of immigration
   
7. She gerrymandered local authorities by forcing through council house sales, at the same time preventing councils from spending the money they got for selling houses on building new houses (spending on social housing dropped by 67% in her premiership)
   
8. She was responsible for 3.6 million unemployed - the highest figure and the highest proportion of the workforce in history and three times the previous government. Massaging of the figures means that the figure was closer to 5 million
   
9. She ignored intelligence about Argentinian preparations for the invasion of the Falkland Islands and scrapped the only Royal Navy presence in the islands
   
10. The poll tax
    
11. She presided over the closure of 150 coal mines; we are now crippled by the cost of energy, having to import expensive coal from abroad
    
12. She compared her "fight" against the miners to the Falklands War
    
13. She privatised state monopolies and created the corporate greed culture that we've been railing against for the last 5 years
    
14. She introduced the gradual privatisation of the NHS
    
15. She introduced financial deregulation in a way that turned city institutions into avaricious money pits
    
16. She pioneered the unfailing adoration and unquestioning support of the USA
    
17. She allowed the US to place nuclear missiles on UK soil, under US control
    
18. Section 28
    
19. She opposed anti-apartheid sanctions against South Africa and described Nelson Mandela as "that grubby little terrorist"
    
20. She support the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and sent the SAS to train their soldiers
    
21. She allowed the US to bomb Libya in 1986, against the wishes of more than 2/3 of the population
    
22. She opposed the reunification of Germany
    
23. She invented Quangos
    
24. She increased VAT from 8% to 17.5%
    
25. She had the lowest approval rating of any post-war Prime Minister
    
26. Her post-PM job? Consultant to Philip Morris tobacco at $250,000 a year, plus $50,000 per speech
    
27. The Al Yamamah contract
    
28. She opposed the indictment of Chile's General Pinochet
    
29. Social unrest under her leadership was higher than at any time since the General Strike
    
30. She presided over interest rates increasing to 15%
    
31. BSE
    
32. She presided over 2 million manufacturing job losses in the 79-81 recession
    
33. She opposed the inclusion of Eire in the Northern Ireland peace process
    
34. She supported sanctions-busting arms deals with South Africa
    
35. Cecil Parkinson, Alan Clark, David Mellor, Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitkin
    
36. Crime rates doubled under Thatcher
    
37. Black Wednesday – Britain withdraws from the ERM and the pound is devalued. Cost to Britain - £3.5 billion; profit for George Soros - £1 billion
    
38. Poverty doubled while she opposed a minimum wage
    
39. She privatised public services, claiming at the time it would increase public ownership. Most are now owned either by foreign governments (EDF) or major investment houses. The profits don’t now accrue to the taxpayer, but to foreign or institutional shareholders.
    
40. She cut 75% of funding to museums, galleries and other sources of education
    
41. In the Thatcher years the top 10% of earners received almost 50% of the tax remissions
    
42. 21.9% inflation
    
    

Most people recognise the massive changes that evolved during the 1980s. However, to ascribe the positive changes to one person, as though they never would have happened in her absence, is laughable.

Even if you are capable of ignoring the damage she did to significant proportions of our society, how the fuck can you write off the fact that she was best buddies with,and supported, a fucking despot like Pinochet?
If you think she was so great maybe ask the opinion of some people from Chile? Don't ask the 30,000 who were tortured though, that might introduce some bias and that would be unfair.

great list Clever Pun
repped