I don't own any music

I buy physical music occasionally but only if it's something I really want, where as I used to but new albums every week. I think the whole digital/cloud subscription area is good for me (other than paying me) because it means I can discover new artists or listen to hard to find/expensive albums without having to pay any extra.

I collect vinyl and I buy new releases from current bands on vinyl from shows and distros etc. I do download a lot of stuff from blogs but only because its fairly obscure stuff for the most part, everything else is on Spotify which I gladly pay for.
I like the feeling of physically owning my music and to me owning records is like owning a piece of the history of a particular scene/genre. Obviously that only applies to stuff that isn't mass produced though.

If I could afford to own a copy of just my favourite albums, I'm sure I would. With that said, I own about 5 CDs.

anyone wanting to put money in p diddy's / simon cowell's pockets is a silly billy

it's the smaller artists the non main stream music that need support not the X Factor rubbish

So having posted in the what are you listening to thread I realised that although I listen to a huge amount of music, with the exception of a dodgy teenage vinyl collection that hasn't left the loft in 20 years and the odd CD I've bought on impulse, I don't actually own any music anymore.

Now between Digital Radio, Spotify, YouTube etc I no-longer need to actually spend money to listen music.

Actually thats a lie, I have a spotify unlimited account so I dont get adverts and there are no limits on the amount of music I can listen to but other than that, nothing.

Do people still put a premium on owning a physical copy of the music they listen to?
If artists dont get paid, no new music! I listen to youtube etc, but i buy CDs. Music is better value than almost anything you buy, simply because you play it over & over again!

I think we should stop for a moment and consider the artist/s whose music you are listening to.

If we don't buy their stuff they don't get paid, they don't get paid they stop making music. They stop making music then all we'll be left with is corporate mush pushed on us by multinationals.

Listen to music whichever way you wish, vinyl, CD, Spotify whatever but please put your hand in your pocket at some stage.

I know many many bands that have had to give up because making music and doing gigs became too costly for them.

Thank you
one word, for your comments nail on head, well 3!

To be clear, artists can/do get paid for their music on services like spotify and youtube.

I think we should stop for a moment and consider the artist/s whose music you are listening to.

If we don't buy their stuff they don't get paid, they don't get paid they stop making music. They stop making music then all we'll be left with is corporate mush pushed on us by multinationals.

Listen to music whichever way you wish, vinyl, CD, Spotify whatever but please put your hand in your pocket at some stage.

I know many many bands that have had to give up because making music and doing gigs became too costly for them.

Thank you

I found this excellent chart showing just how much or how little independent artists get when you buy their music in various ways.
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/how-much-do-music-artists-earn-online/comment-page-6/#comment-42021

Got it via here:
http://blacklabworld.com/support-the-workers

Google play makes buying music so easy and fairly cheap. I have vinyl, cds & cassettes and have bought a replica collection from Google play which is accessible through any computer/mobile so i no longer listen any other way. Perhaps its time to sell decades of music collecting

I have bought hundreds of CDs, tapes before that, and a bit of vinyl. I have no problem with Apple iTunes downloads, as it's easy, cheap and the bitrates are good. I am buying most of my music this way nowadays.
It's good to know they make the most for the artist too. However I still tend to search first for a freebie. Force of habit, as over the years I must have downloaded thousands of albums illegally. I forget its easier to do it legally these days. If only record companies had embraced digital downloads in the early days rather than fight it.

I found this excellent chart showing just how much or how little independent artists get when you buy their music in various ways.
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/how-much-do-music-artists-earn-online/comment-page-6/#comment-42021

Ha. Good link. Worth linking directly:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/infobeautiful2/selling_out_550.png

I still love shopping for music, talking to people who love music buying from a proper record shop is about the experience for me. Leafing through stuff asking questions supporting someone who is trying to keep life interesting and stocking varied things.

I buy stuff from iTunes but mainly things which are not available in UK readily.

I love a physical copy I love the artwork, the sleeve notes, my wall of cd's,and my vinyl is my pride and joy.

I recently signed up to this kickstarter for a musician I like and think this is a great idea to self fund but obviously you need a reasonable following for it to work but seems like a great way to keep creative control of your output.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/958123444/making-lp7-kd-w-rob-schnapf-and-lp8-kd-gdb-w-jesse

Brilliant company"s like Light in the Attic have enabled me to discover lost artists. I would never have heard the brilliant UFO by Jim Sullivan, which included a 30 page booklet, you can"t get that from a download. If people don"t support/pay for re-discovered gems, these buisnesses will die! Remember that, to anyone who never pays for their music..

How much do artists tend to get from gigs? i'd much rather pay to see an artist live, maybe buy a vinyl or a tshirt from the merch stand; than buy a cd.

Used to be you toured to support the music sales, now you want to sell enough music so people come and see you.

A guy on TV last night was saying that artists got too greedy and left the promoters with so little percentage (<10%) that live music is dying on its arse because the promoters have to do so much work and cannot make a profit. Hence you have to be really big to book the venues these days. If the artists (as a whole entity + entourage) get 90% that's fine, but if that's preventing them booking venues in the first place that's clearly not fine.

85% vinyl, 14% CD, 1% iPod

Technology can get fucked

85% vinyl, 14% CD, 1% iPod

Technology can get fucked

succinct, as always.

last c.d I bought was after a gig friday just gone, supporting musicians still happens in that way kids.

I've got about 10 good records, some CDs I bought as a teen that didn't successfully sell on eBay and a Spotify Premium account. Almost everything I listen to is through Spotify now.

For some people, owning records, CDs, and digital downloads is a big thing. For me it's just clutter. If you knew me, you'd know I hate clutter.

Vinyl, CDs, Tapes, purchased, downloaded and ripped MP3s. I don't own any 8-tracks. I do have a couple of minidisc but none of those other odd digital formats that were around in the early 90s.

Whatever I can get it on I will buy or I will take.

Preference to buy. Preference to physical form.

Spotify premium if good in some ways, apart from this way, but it's major downside is that my ipod music collection is now about 6yrs old.

So when I am in the gym I am well off trend.

18cents richer than he woulda been if he hadn't used those services (and that's only part of his financial statement) and he's still pissing and moaning.

Right enough it must be hard when you've gotten used to like, 1000% profit on CD sales.

For all of the 150 or so LPs that I own, I can remember where I bought them and pretty much my life circumstances at that time, so the listening experience is much more than just hearing the music. The same is just not true for downloaded music and particularly not single tracks.

Example - I own pretty much the entire Robert Cray Band output, which spans vinyl, CD and digital download. Best by far in terms of a 'listening experience' are the vinyls. Many more senses/memories/good times involved when putting on and listening to vinyl. I'm strongly persuaded.

MP3s and mass downloading are killing my attention span for music.

Recently I had another go at Soulseek (remember that?) and it annoyed me within half an hour.

It's one of those subjects I think about all the time but never form an actual opinion on. I just know that I can't get down with most things 'digital' (you know, cameras, radio, tv, music...) none of it fills the analogue void. I like things to be solid, clunky, tangible, and to work lit-er-all-y at the touch of a button. But I really do want to be pulled forward into this slick technical world that somehow doesn't actually exist because nothing ever fucking works properly.

Listening to music should be an active thing. Hearing things digitally seems so passive it just disappears into the background. You can't beat the sound of old vinyl. Is 5000 records too many? Nah!

No. Everything got converted to FLAC or MKV last year.

Pissed off by carrying shit loads of LP's, CD's, DVD's, etc, etc everytime I moved house.

It's now all on a mini server and/or Google Play.

(apart from some rare vinyl. Motorhead's first album 'White Line Fever' on white vinyl relabeled as 'White Vinyl Fever'? :-D )

Only problem with digital vs 12" LP is that it's impossible to skin up on an MP3.