Cycle Superhighway Extension - East.

I fear for the day when a cyclist is injured through no fault of their own riding on a road, but they are found partly liable because they did not use nearby poorly designed infrastructure.
This, in fucking spades.

Even now, I've been cut up too many times by drivers, in whose opinion I should have been on the blue strip / green strip, meaning that being on the main carriageway makes me fair game to them pointing their car at me.

invariably catch up with the car at the next junction or lights.
I likt to catch up with them when they are sleeping, unaware, in their beds.

Nearly all of Greater London then, where average speeds are 11mph, I think. Drivers think cyclists delay them, but I invariably catch up with the car at the next junction or lights.

7mph according to Citroen.

so it's as quick as running then?

Cycle super stream?

Going Dutch.

So those are dams on either side?

it's so they don't have to clean the boris bikes, just wait for the bikes to be ridden through designated wet zones for a bit of a spray down.

Sheep dip.

so it's as quick as running then?

More like jogging.

I fear for the day when a cyclist is injured through no fault of their own riding on a road, but they are found partly liable because they did not use nearby poorly designed infrastructure.

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This has happened. Remember Daniel Cadden?
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/2007-01-27/cyclist-who-refused-to-stay-in-gutter-wins-re-trial

Sheep dip.

You fucking idiot, it's for the foot and mouth disease, NEVER FORGET!

I fear for the day when a cyclist is injured through no fault of their own riding on a road, but they are found partly liable because they did not use nearby poorly designed infrastructure.

This has happened. Remember Daniel Cadden?
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/2007-01-27/cyclist-who-refused-to-stay-in-gutter-wins-re-trial

Daniel Cadden was neither injured, though, nor found liable in the end (although, of course, that was after two dates in court).

#pedanticbutimportant

Still, it's a slippery slope.

Nearly all of Greater London then, where average speeds are 11mph, I think. Drivers think cyclists delay them, but I invariably catch up with the car at the next junction or lights.

True. That's an education issue - they are obviously slowed in the sense they'd rather be doing 30 - but the journey isn't slowed at all.

But a lot of these segregated lanes are out more suburban/rural where I don't think it's justifiable to hog road space if almost as good space is there. Clearly it depends on each scenario - there's a bit in west wickham where the pavement is shared peds/cyclists and you just end up negotiating a slalom of lamposts, buggies, turds, and so forth.

death on cs2 yesterday
plus two other serious injuries in central london

wonder how boris will address this when he opens cs2 extension today

I have to say, the cs2 extension is a great improvement on the rest of cs2. I ride it daily to work, and it really has made a difference to my commute, the lane's nice a wide, closed off from cars, yes it is a little wet at points but overall it's fantastic

I have to say, the cs2 extension is a great improvement on the rest of cs2. I ride it daily to work, and it really has made a difference to my commute, the lane's nice a wide, closed off from cars, yes it is a little wet at points but overall it's fantastic

It's my commute too, but I've been off the bike for a bit. Rode it for the first time yesterday morning.

The tarmac coating rolls much slower than normal tarmac. Noticeably slower, which is a fucking pain. It's a good job I was wearing overshoes, it was flooded in two places, and it hadn't exactly been heavy rain the day or night before. I hate Bow roundabout, and I don't care what they've done to 'improve' it, I'm not using it. Getting to the flyover is not easy, I don't know why they've made that so difficult.

Also, drivers have no clue what to do when they want to turn left. To them, they're at the front of the lights so they turn left, a segregated cycle lane means "not my problem" from my observations. Left hooks aplenty. It's only going to get worse when it gets busier. Imagine CS7 levels of cycle traffic on that lane, it'd be fucking carnage.

Only got one thing to say on this: I predict hell in January.

January, when it snows the roads get grit salts chucked on them which along with warm car and bus tyres melts then clears the snow and ice. I cant see the gritter lorries getting to these lanes so come the cold weather they will become an unrideable skating rink. That puddle above will freeze into a solid lane of ice and you will all come off as you lean to navigate the bend.

Basically a normal CX course then.

yep, but with hump wearing hybrid riders rather than skinsuited masochists.

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as far as the bow flyover

And it's left hooks which are the biggest killers. All this lane seems to do is increase that risk.

Edit - this was in response to nurse's post.

And it's left hooks which are the biggest killers. All this lane seems to do is increase that risk.

Edit - this was in response to nurse's post.

Yup, you get a significant increase in subjective safety, (and an accordingly more pleasant ride) but the design is still way short of how this type of infrastructure is upposed to operate.

they could have used the angled kerbstones as per oxford street making it less crash worthy