Power Meters / Powermeters (SRM, Powertap, Quarq, Ergomo, Vector, Stages, power2max, P2M, 4iii, InPower, Cinch)

How many crits did you guys race?

20min turbo is an estimate. Race data is not an estimate. Work it out based on what you have..

4 or 5 tour series. Plus loads of local.
If you smash a pod it's utter un-luck.

They're a good reliable powermeter generally, when they work they work. But not the best design. The spindles leak all the grease and exustar are naff.

275w FTP vs 297 10min max?

Those are pretty similar in reality.

It all Depends what you use Your FTP for. I do very specific training on the turbo. Where an accurate FTP is vital. So I do indoor tests and use that FTP value.

Outside I use FTP for pacing, and TSS logging. I do have a 25min Climb which I often log a 20min lap on. If that value is way off my indoor value, I set my trainingpeaks FTP different to my Trainerroad FTP (super annoying). But I dont change my indoor FTP based on outdoor achievements.

@smallfurry - He probably means a 10mile TT. Therefore probably longer than the 20min turbo effort.

Racing over training figures every time. You'll always push that bit harder in a race.

Depends on whether your training is on the road or turbo. If it is on the road then I would base it from 297.

Turbo has a much lower inertial load than the road so there is often a discrepancy (ie most people put out more power on the road than they can on the turbo)

Although I am still yet to hit my CP20 that I set on the turbo on the road (guess I should try and find a 20min climb to test it on...)

My bad. You Cavemen and Your 'miles'.

This is my point. If training is on the turbo. Use turbo values.

But bare in mind Your TSS etc will be off if Your outdoor FTP is in reality a lot higher. Which considering how you can engage Your upper body so much more outdoors. It may well be.

lozzles - have you seen my upper body? There are anorexic school girls with bigger arms than me.

Yes - ideally you would want different categories of workout in TP - so you could calculate TSS based for turbo and road and have different FTP's for each, but then you would also want different ones for hillclimbs, MTBing, cross etc as they all have different characteristics.

When my indoor FTP and my outdoor FTP are different. I just get less than accurate values for indoor TSS. As thats a TrainingPeaks thing, which is based on outdoor FTP.

To be honest I'm a vain idiot. So I tend to just use my highest FTP, and then suffer horribly on the Turbo.

good point on using indoor numbers for indoors, and outdoors for outdoors, im hoping to move away from the turbo as much as possible, as its a bit knackered and i'm fed up of changing tyres...

next big purchase will be a direct drive turbo as I know that in general its a lot easier to do quality sessions on one, and I do have a good set up for it, but its become harder and hard to get working just right over the last 6 months probably because the roller that the wheels sits on has becoming really pitted and scratched.

Your turbo set up needs to be as stress free as possible no?. I set mine up in the morning ready for an evening session sometimes. Even then I sometimes struggle to get on the bastard thing.

My bike generally rests in my Computrainer and that's next to my bed.

Good luck avoiding it now, hippy! stubstoeonturbo

the fricking thing will change over the course of a brick session (apologies for those offended by slvlss's) I can do one set at threshold, get off run, come back and all of a sudden the same gear and 90 rpm results in 50 watts or 500 watts with nothing that I can fathom having changed...

queue faffing which im pretty sure defeats the point of the session!

Fluid trainer?

Lemond Rev is the best thing I've ridden.

Or small rollers with a fan. They were very good for efforts too. But not so easy when knackered and on tri bars.

it may well be, but it sounds like a helicopter has started up a couple of metres away

Lol!
It's not that bad... But I do use it in the loft. Nothing some noise cancelling headphones can't deal with.

I tend to allways have a bike on the turbo. Sometimes its the fixed. But its good to have one ready.

I've only done 2 brick sessions using the turbo.
My FTP after a 1000m swim is around 6w I think.
But I can run away from the thing at a decent pace.

magnetic, its second hand though and genuinely falling to bits, some of the casing holding the roller wheel has come off so its a bit loose.

really like the look of the elite muin.....

but it seems the wrong time of year to buy a turbo...

Surely its the right time of year. Wont there be offers etc?

This is not a good look.......

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"Power: 0 to 2000W"

I'm out.