Power Meters / Powermeters (SRM, Powertap, Quarq, Ergomo, Vector, Stages, power2max, P2M, 4iii, InPower, Cinch)

705's are remarkably robust - mine has been thrown from the handlebars at high speed several times by various, crap 'out front' mounts in the last year and still absolutely fine bar a few scratches. 99% of the problems I have had with it have been my fault in the first place.

Was that in warranty period or out? My screen is also cracked..

It is 2.5 years old though. And was a freebie from Strava.

My 305 was out of warranty when it died (a circumstance probably not unrelated to being thrown down the road at ~25mph). Garmin UK said a "repair" (i.e.swap for a new/refurbished one) would cost £99 and took payment details, but sent a new one without actually taking a payment. My understanding is that this is a common experience, although possibly without the 'taking payment details' bit for units inside their warranty period.

For me one was in warranty and one was out (I think), both were 310xt. I'm not sure how the out of warranty repair was negotiated because my GF organised it for me while I was away but I'm 99% sure it was free of charge for a refurbished one. As it happens I bought a 910 shortly after but the refurbished 310 is now on the GF's bike and hasn't had any issues.

^ I read in the aftermath of MH370 that developing a new airline passenger seat can run into $100Ks, because of how stringent the testing is. Not sure if amazing or ridiculous - suppose the two are not mutually exclusive!

Developing any complex mass-produced product is expensive, obviously more so if it's performance is highly regulated, but spread over 20,000 units (e.g. the Air France 777 fleet of 25 -200ER and 40 -300ER has up to 23,000 economy seats, depending on layout) $500k to develop a cattle-class seat is only $25 a seat, obviously much lower if you share a seat across airlines or aircraft types.

Nice hear the positive experiances. There is very little culture for good service up here. Even when its the local office of an international.

Hour long webinar intro to training with power meters by Hunter Allen sponsored by Powertap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNZVDgTajRg

two more hour long presentations here

http://www.powertap.com/blogs/train/14082373-3-part-webinar-series-how-to-train-with-power-by-peaks-coaching-group

A three season PMC chart to demonstrate the very close correlation between me getting CTL over 100 and the top ten 60/20/8 min NP efforts.

This shit works

http://www.lfgss.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84069&stc=1&d=1399579775

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Apparently Apple Mac WKO is coming "by summer"

This shit works

You mean you get fitter when you do more/better training? Wow, nobody would ever have known that before power meters came along.

I've never looked at the whole chart from day 0 before so, yes, I knew when I'd done "more" I was 'better' generally but seeing the 2012 and 2014 numbers vs 2013 all together flags exactly how the "more" and "better" intersect.

I have been pootling around in Provence for the past week, wearing my Powercal.

Here's a ride file for Ventoux- it was a fairly relaxed ascent, chatting away for most of it, however- given that I can't go up the hill I live on at anything below 250 watts and still maintain forward movement I suspect the Powercal data is a little conservative.

I have been pootling around in Provence for the past week, wearing my Powercal.

Here's a ride file for Ventoux- it was a fairly relaxed ascent, chatting away for most of it, however- given that I can't go up the hill I live on at anything below 250 watts and still maintain forward movement I suspect the Powercal data is a little conservative.

Once I've settled into an effort mine reads about 30w too low I reckon. Should test it against the P2M really. Could probably do that on the turbo via trainerroad. But similar trainng rides With each show a 30 ish watt difference.

had a quick skim back and failed to see any mention of the quarq price drops.
thinking of a summer sunshine treat to myself, and have gone off the idea of vectors.

I've been scouring ebay for the past few months. Missed out on a good one because I was riding though.

priorities all wrong, obviously :)

had a quick skim back and failed to see any mention of the quarq price drops.
thinking of a summer sunshine treat to myself, and have gone off the idea of vectors.

Rode with two Vectors and one Stages on the weekend. The Vectors looked aesthetically awful and on top of that I dropped one.

The stages bike on the other hand made your Look loook like a whiter shade of pale. So get an SRM as Julich is probably the only place where there was a very near nuclear meltdown in the Eighties.

The Vector aesthetics were part of the problem.
Stages require crank compromises that I don't want to make. Quarq is sramtastic. But there are so many other things I should be spending the money on, especially considering even though work is good at the moment I'm fucking off for two months soonish.

Not much point in having a PM if you're not training anyway? Just another strava willy waving metric.

Curiosity-satisfying. Not training for events/racing != not wanting to get faster, and this can be done efficiently using power data.

Gym guys and their beach muscle = me and my sunday speed, CB likes looking big and I like riding fast.

Fair enough. Just seems a bit at odds with your "I just ride, I don't train" mantra. I would never have got one if I didn't want to use it for really specific training, to help me make improvements I need to make for racing/TT's and also to be able to do regular tests to gauge them.

Power sort of takes the fun out of riding, bit like HR etc - who wants to spend rides looking at screens, then getting home and look at more screen to review the ride..

I seem to recall putting a 'lol' in brackets after the 'I don't train' bit ;)

More of a tube guy?

(badum tish)

Have you just bought a Stages powermeter and got a 172.5mm Shimano LH HT2 crank arm lying around spare? Operators are standing by.

Yes. Grey Ultegra 6700.

Pushed my CTL up from 63 to 80 in the last week- I'd like to hit 100 in the next three weeks then taper for a week.

Reckon that is doable without killing myself?

And yes, I have left it late this year.