The War on Britain's Roads (BBC Documentary / tabloid tv)

what amazed me is the stats in the program saying the average speed of a car in the city is now down to 11mph. Why on earth anyone would use a car is beyond me.

1. heavy/bulking object that need to be collected/delivered
   
2. when i know we're going not going to be done before the last train home leaves
   

Just wait for the fallout from this sensationalist bullshit and those twats from the show.
A. Who was that prick doing most of the chatting?
B. Anyone who needs a helmet cam in my opinion is either looking for trouble or is a fuckwit.

Still angry at that program

Started watching it.
Got 5mins in and couldn't even be fucked being outraged.

It was piss poor, and shouldn't be given any part of the wider debate around cycle safety and road share. In fact, it shouldn't even be referred to as a documentary.

A delightful piece of Daily Mail style trolling by the BBC.
Meanwhile on the streets of London and other cities of the UK cyclists go about their business. I was even greeted with a "safe journey mate" from a cabbie this morning when I leveled with his open window.

It happens all the time.
Some time ago it was knife crime, then it was legal highs, then sommat else.
Lazy journos latch on to an extreme half story and report it as it's a norm.

I forget where, but someone on here put it quite rightly in saying;
This is what the media does ALL the time. It's only when the subject is a topic that you know and care quite a lot about that you realise it's all ball. (paraphrased)

They see me lookin' at my speedo doin' 50... they be hatin'..

Fuck you.The BFF was built on courier culture,like this site was and your poxy stick hockey.I'll come to your polo meets at kids' playground's and have it out with you if you fancy it.Fucking polo nerd.

You seem to know who I am but I have no idea who you are (but dont particularly care). Creepy. But no, I dont 'fancy' 'having it out with you', you child. I'm not interested in macho, physically aggressive, threatening and stupid behaviour, I'll leave that to the morons riding brakeless in the wrong direction at full tilt through pedestrian crossings. I'm sure you've got other things on your mind hanging around children's playgrounds.

I dont much care either if there's an iota of truth in your assertion that the genesis of this site stems from riding like a complete wanker. Humanity's genesis stems from knuckle dragging apes, with low intelligence, limited language capability and incapacity for rational thought; but we've all moved on, developed, evolved, increased our consciousness, although evidently from your post some remnants of our neanderthal beginnings remain.

My antipathy towards Lucas Brunelle still stands. I can only assume from that post that you identify with that self-absorbed, pseudo-rebel idiot. So I guess the fair and reasonable corollary from that is: fuck Lucas Brunelle, and fuck you too.

B. Anyone who needs a helmet cam in my opinion is either looking for trouble or is a fuckwit.

The value judgements above do not have to be mutually exclusive.

You lot are all missing the most important thing. I was on the telly.

What pizza did you have?

I've heard only one 'boo' at a Lucas Brunelle film at bff, out of my drunken mouth. I have to admit however that they're one of the things that got me back on my bike having skated for transport for a number of years up to 2006/7. Seriously, those films are like crack.

I'm really tempted to send these excellent spindrift messages to Cash In The Attic tv prod co inc.

Synopsis:

http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/bbc-doc-portrays-dvd-stunt-cycling-footage-as-standard-behaviour/014036

Right, get the misrepresentation in early.

That means nothing and is probably not true. Things are much better than they were fifteen years ago.

Unverifiable anecdotes from cabbies, lovely.

If the cabbie just wanted to go about his business why did he deliberately steer into the cyclist then get out and assault him? Why did nobody ask him this?

Evidence?

There we go again, no actual evidence, just lofty pronouncements that things are worse and cyclists risk getting beaten up if they venture out on a bike.

Any actual evidence? Like how cyclists in The City get ticketed for RLJing more than drivers do once you allow for the percentages.

"Taking over the road"? Or riding in accord with national standards to avoid dangerous overtakes?

Yep, only cyclists jump reds.

Lovely.

Cyclists have a "wobble room" enshrined in case law, any competent driver would know the Highway Code- that you leave enough room for the cyclist that if they toppled sideways you'd miss them. Quite a few drivers have killed cyclists and not been charged with anything!

Two thirds to blame? And nobody challenged that?

There we have it, a load of dangerous, ignorant, victim-blaming garbage from those world-famous experts on cycling, the makers of Cash In The Attic.

This really is shit on toast.

They could have showed how someone who lives in zone 3 and works in central London could save £130 a month by cycling. They could have highlighted how a rise in numbers has made things safer, I mean did you really feel encouraged to cycle by that programme? They could have done some proper reporting like a proper documentary that isn't just You tube clips and covered real stories like how the cops allowed Eilidh Cairns killer to kill again, or Thames Materials and Dennis Putz, a man who'd been banned from driving 16 times and got a job driving a lorry in London. Ask who insured him and did his employers know. Proper investigating journalism.

This wasn't proper investigating journalism, it was tawdry and cheap and not helpful, a lot of it was "Look at this idiot" when maybe it would be better to look at what actually makes roads safer. And it isn't a whistle.

All this remind me of;

The value judgements above do not have to be mutually exclusive.

True, very true.
I can't help but think, if you have a cam, you are going to try to antagonise drivers just to get some decent footage. Or cycle particularly dangerously just to impress your mates down the pub/missus

Fatality reported and people are already arguing about this fucking telly programme in the comments.

exercise your right to be a proper fully conversant internet person.
http://ask.ofcom.org.uk/help/television/howTvcomp
complain about this here, move on,
quote dublinkevin.
"Humanity's genesis stems from knuckle dragging apes, with low intelligence, limited language capability and incapacity for rational thought; but we've all moved on, developed, evolved, increased our consciousness, although evidently from your post some remnants of our neanderthal beginnings remain. "
well said^^just like Clarkson and half the British public, happily permitted to pass one driving test per lifetime to qualify them in charge of a dangerous object.

Just proves as some have said that there are idiots on the roads who drive and bike. Surprised that there wasn't anything about motorcyclists?

Saw a person on their motorbike this morning drive down the cycle lane to avoid traffic!

All this remind me of;

This is rubbish. Drivers don't get 'confused' when they see a cyclist.

They get angry when there's a perception of 'being held up', or get aggressive for the same reasons. Or they make a dangerous move because their driving ability is poor. Alternatively they use their skill and judgement to make a safe move, or deem it safe not to make any move and wait patiently.

If drivers are getting genuinely confused by a cyclist, then they are probably elderly and suffering from dementure, or learners with no experience.

I see there's been no talk of Petronella Wyatt interviews. So, for that reason, I'm out.

She's too busy looking after her elderly mother, who's been knocked over by a [strike]cyclist[/strike] lycra lout for the 1,547th time.

She's the Chairperson of RoadPeace

http://www.roadpeace.org/about/trustees/

I thought I knew her name.

I'll send a thank you there, in her name, and will also send the entirety of this year's tithe to RoadPeace too.

If she has a Charity, I'd like to make a small Christmas donation.

Just to remain true to my word I've made a donation to roadpeace this morning, she nearly had me to tears re-telling her story in the office this morning.

just watching it now. didn't know alley cats were every day? also, its a load of hate stirring shit.

ok, actually the stuff about the HGV perspective and the number of scooting, pavement hopping nobheads is good.

sad to see that the black banner has been raised again.. :-(

Overall it was predictable on pretty much every level and just showed the same old attitudes on either side that will never go away in this country.

Don't you understand? Cycling is OVER you cretins.
Gone, done, OUT.

Commuters: you self righteous little buffoons, get on the train, that's what it's for. Or are you worried there'll be nobody to feel superior to? Get a grip, you're a graphic designer not Zdenek Stybar.

Leisure cyclists: Leave those Halfords specials in the garage where they live the other 364 days a year, nobody needs your incredulous excursions into London's pressured parks. Stay indoors, get a bargain bucket and let the kids play X-box ffs.

'Racing' cyclists: You're not Wiggins, you're not Hoy. In fact you bear a closer resemblance to Hoy's dad. Replica tour kit makes you look like a 4 year old child in a Batman suit without any of the humour or endearment. Relax, sell the turbo trainer you never use, have a couple of beers, a round of golf, there that's much better for your dicky heart isn't it?

Couriers: Are there still losers doing this? It's all computers these days, companies don't want your vile effluvia in their reception. Stop trying to look like hipsters, you can't afford it. Get back into army surplus and MTBs with slicks or you know where the dole office is.

So-called 'professionals', yes cycle 'trainers', 'coaches' yeah yeah, whatever. Most of you can't even ride a fucking bike and you spend all your time saying what a wonderful job you're doing for other people. Bullshit you're doing it to feed your own planet-sized ego. Your time has come, go back under whatever middle-management stone you crawled out from, or do something really useful, like sweep the streets.

Hope this helps

You're just jealous that other 'cyclists' can turn right.

Just had a watch and not all bad.

It would have been immeasurably better imo with Schick, Dropout, and Skully in place of Gareth, DeludedDroid, and Smuglawyer, for example.

But the former are maybe more natural fibres than helmet cam.

Was ok - just came away thinking that theres a lot of twits around, some drive cars, others ride bikes.

Every time I saw the guy who argued with the cab driver I thought of Randall: