Bike Mielec

well i think the idea with the mash geo is you get the TT you'd normally go for and have a higher st with less post showing to create the pursuit like look.

I think this is actually right. It means you have little seatpost, but can have a normal length, slammed stem.
For example, Chas from Mash's bike
http://forallmyfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/chas-mashsf-by-prolly.jpg

So you're saying that the geo should suit someone with Indra's dimensions?

cinelli usa:

Developed for fixed gear street use or riding hard and fast for long distances. The geometry is pure speed: steep angles and slightly stretched wheel base offer exceptional cornering stability. The signature negative sloping top tube gets the rider into an attacking, aggressive and committed riding position. This frame is constantly taking firsts in city races worldwide. And the Benny Gold designed graphics are still the toast of the blogs.

also I recommend looking at geo charts

^ written by a marketing clue with little-to-no knowledge of bicycle dynamics.

i have no idea but shouldn't you just choose your fitting effective tt lengths and put that on the pursuit geo?
so if you run a road bike with an effective tt of 55cm you'll need the same effective lengths for the pursuit geo?

my 55 effective top tube low has 13cm headtube with 31mm stack height king headset. It is not hard to compare that to a roadbike. 75 degree seat angle makes the reach a little longer than on a roadbike, but I am not riding it with 12cm stem and hoods either.

Why would anyone 181cm with 86 inseam get a size 53, I mean I assume you dont ride 53 roadbikes either? I am 181 with 85.

^ written by a marketing clue with little-to-no knowledge of bicycle dynamics.

enlighten me what in this paragraph gives away his ignorance.

it doesn't really matter what cinelli/mash say about their frame. A 58 L frame with a 55 TT is too short. which means if you want a longer TT you go for a longer ST and less seat post.

obviously they're not going to advertise their frame as essentially a fake lo-pro.

but its not 58 seattube ctc!! its ctt

yes. it's st 55 c-c, tt 55 c-c effective.

I thought about going for a 53 but the TT would have been too short for me - 5'8, but with short legs (31"), when I built it up went for max seatpost but I could barely ride the thing and was switfly going to squash my balls into oblivion.

This was it already brought down:

and I had to bring it down further again.

flip the stem and it would be perfect.

I haven't ridden any pursuit frame ever and I can't find one to ride! I asked Robert from Mielec and he suggested a 53 (Low copy geo). Also from Low they suggest the same size. I always thought a 55 would be better for me (181cm or 5'11" with 86 inseam).I guess I am wrong. What should I choose?

Guys, y u no stack and reach?

flip the stem and it would be perfect.

looks like -6, so flipping it would make it boner stem

I haven't ridden any pursuit frame ever and I can't find one to ride! I asked Robert from Mielec and he suggested a 53 (Low copy geo). Also from Low they suggest the same size. I always thought a 55 would be better for me (181cm or 5'11" with 86 inseam).I guess I am wrong. What should I choose?

I'm pretty much your dimensions and got a 53cm mash copy, you can always compensate with a setback seatpost and longer stem.

Guys, y u no stack and reach?

Because it comes without a fork.

And I have proportionally short legs.

I finally finished building mine last weekend.

Should have bought the L, forgot to account for the hoods I'd be using when I measured my track bike. Should have used something level as a reference, rather than the top tube, when I set the bar angle.

Need to get the rear bridge drilled and see if I can find a 0.5mm BB spacer as I think the one I've used to move the spider away from the stay is a bit thick.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1275932_10100270946040997_46769010_o.jpg

Anyone know of a cheap seatpost with a very shallow clamp so I look like less of a shortarse? DuraAce Easton post is good, but not 31.6, not black, not cheap, and not shallow enough.

Nothing but <150mm cranks is going to make that look right

The mielec finally has life!

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Awesome! I sort of wish I'd got a triple triangle and I really wish my frame had arrived in the nice blue colour I'd specified rather than boring black!

Here is mine, almost finished at last:

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Aside from the spacers/neg stem/deep bulls mess that looks rad.