Surly Ogre

^ Still offering it in black.

If stealth is your thing?

If I can't get the green one in the window will be going for black. Unless the tarnish grey looks a lot better in the flesh than that photo (like the 2013 green Cross Check...) but I'm not convinced it will.

Latest updates to the off-road Ogre:

Wider rims, bigger tyres and about 900 grams worth of rack.

Rack?!

Shakes head sadly...

You love it :-)

Love it!

Keeps the mud off the arse too....

The Ogre took a wrong turn today and ended up in microsoft land :-/

Did you have to turn if off then on?

Yes, I also restored the weather back to Summer :-)

Blue screen of death

Mine in winter commute mode.... Did have a decent seatpost and a Brooks until some scrote cut the cable and nicked it!

PS really must decide what to do with the steerer length and actually cut it!

Looks good Steves. I see you've gone with the Tortec rack as well.

What mudguards have you fitted there?

Theyre the Bluemels - 65mm...the only place I could find them was bikediscount.de..... The rear went on a treat, the front was a bit of a fiddle....had to use a bit of meccano to drop the top mount and a spacer to get round the caliper. It's not exactly square now, which annoys me, but it's pretty damn close!

It is a heavy lump though...the Alfine doesn't exacly make for a lightweight wheel!

I've tried it with various tyres....I've got some Clement USH ready for ripping the guards and racks off to go bikepacking....

had to use a bit of meccano to drop the top mount and a spacer to get round the caliper.

That was going to be my next question :-)

Cheers.

Looks lovley BN, where was that?

If you mean the unnaturally bright green landscape, it's from this ride.

http://www.strava.com/activities/91011213

And it's just here, judging by those trees in the middle distance.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=sewardstone+road&ll=51.712012,0.044222&spn=0.000566,0.001552&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&hnear=Sewardstone+Rd,+Waltham+Abbey,+London+E4+7RQ,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=51.712012,0.044222&panoid=rtN5Imji9BeoPOhRNX6r_g&cbp=12,39.64,,0,0.65

had to use a bit of meccano to drop the top mount

Looks like Meccano has a competitor... http://problemsolversbike.com/blog/comments/fender_flutes_now_in_stock

Looks like Meccano has a competitor... http://problemsolversbike.com/blog/comments/fender_flutes_now_in_stock

$18? call me tight, but I'll stick with the meccano!

So I'm going to sell my Ogre frameset. 24", unused, one of the first in the country.

Anyone tall looking for one?

Maybe...

So I'm going to sell my Ogre frameset. 24"

Dibs.

Oh... wait :-/

Will be up on the 'bay as of tonight

Nice setup. How you finding the Woodchippers? I just stuck a set on my Vaya. Love the inward-leaning hood position but haven't quite dialled the bar-lever transition yet. I think it needs to be more like yours.

The reason I chose the Extrawheel Voyager was (mainly) because we saw one at the top of Trollstigen, and if someone can ride it up and down that then it's clearly the choice of hero's.

However, in addition to that I liked the single wheel- it is suitable for off road use as it tracks your rear wheel, so will happily follow you down (not very) technical single track, or, more to my use, if you avoid that big pot hole with the wheels of your bike then the trailer (odds-on) will also do so.

The racks mount the panniers low- in the low-rider position so the weight is below the axle line, even though they can get 60 litres of stuff in the weight distribution just makes the bike a bit more ponderous when out of the saddle- when seated it just feels heavy.

You can also get a secondary rack that mounts over the wheel, to allow yet more stuff.

Means you can mount front panniers on the rear wheel for heal clearance, then rear panniers on the trailer- mean that the steering is not affected as there is nothing on the front fork (and you can use a carbon fork).

For the bike I'm going to use it on it also means that you don't need rack mounts or, indeed, a rack, to spoil the lines- once you get where you are going you unhitch the trailer and all trace of luggage hauling machine is gone.

Another vote for the ExtraWheel.

I tried one for an overnighter in the woods with it full of beer, and a rear rack full of beer, food and tents. Nothing on the front as forks on that bie wouldn't allow it and TBH panniers or weight on a MTB when your trying to ride trails isn't going to end well!

With the extra wheel unless you load it heavily (20kg+) you will barely notice its there, as you go up and down rocky/holed trails it gives an odd sensation of pushing and dragging, and occasionally you can get it to bounce off the ground, but it always seemed to be still firmly attached, even on the way back the next day when none of us were feeling like taking it easy or even caring.

It attaches to a special QR with a funky piece of metal work that pivots around the axle, so its the most gentle way (on your frame) of pulling a trailer.

Took the Ogre out for a spot of local riding today.