Tenderloin. Got gearz. Will carbon.

Looks tidy. Are you using the stock pads with the planet x cnc brakes?

needs these

Looks tidy. Are you using the stock pads with the planet x cnc brakes?

Using swisstops - blue I think

needs these

Yeah - I agree.

Looks nice. Isn't the prevailing opinion against carbon stems in favour of alu?

Yes but Tenderloin may be attempting to save weight? In which case no

True. It depends what your cost per gram saved threshold is, as with all these things.

I have to admit I'd have never bought my carbon stem if I'd had to pay retail for it.

£250 for 118g (Arx Ltd), or £49.99 for 150g (Arx Pro).

Ironically the Arx Team is 120g for an RRP of £72.50.

So, the Ltd saves 2g for a very reasonable £177.50, or £88.75/gram.

I am told that crack cocaine is about £50-60 a gram, which gives some perspective to the weight weenie habit.

Yeah the weight/cost saving thing isn't really worth thinking about. I prefer the aesthetics of the carbon stem as much as anything.

Im quite tempted by fluro bar tape - would this look awful?

Fluoro bar tape could look awesome but would be a bit off if there were still red highlights left on the stem / front wheel.

It would look bad with flo. Get some black lizard skin or equivalent IMO. Planet X strava bars not a bad alternative to rotundos. Also think white highlighted 3T stem might be more visually appealing.

See setup I had for ref (which was by no means perfect)

What wheel set is that^ cd op's to Ambrosio/novatec?

Ceramic open pro to campag centaur hubs

It's strange T-V our bikes are pretty similar.

And I think should I replace the frame, it will be with a Canyon.

Not that I'm begging your style or anything :)

Ceramic open pro to campag centaur hubs

proper ceramic, or the CD ones?

Tidy wheelset either way - looks nice on that build.

Proper ceramic - built in 2009 at Condor. I think Mavic stopped doing them shortly after that. Unfortunately I destroyed the rear rim, so now have front wheel in combo with OP CD rear on my steamroller.

^^ ha - I really liked the nanolight and don't think my canyon rides any better (but is al not cf).

expensive rims?

How does the braking surface wear on the CD ones? I can get a pretty good deal on a build using them. Will be 'all weather' training wheels, so decent braking in rain/grit would also be useful.

I think they were about £80 for the ceramic rim at the time. It is a shame they stopped making them, because the braking surface is very durable.

I run rear without a brake on the steamroller, but I had Mavic Reflex tubs last year on the Canyon which have the same CD finish. I was using hard compound brakes and they stripped the CD finish off, best seen in this image:

Braking surface was fine, but it is a bit unsightly. If used with a softer brake compound I don't know if the same problem would arise.

#threadderailover

yeah I had some Campag Omega rims on the Merckx for a while - did exactly the same thing, I think any 'worn' in non-machined breaking surface looks crap after a few bad weather rides

That's why carbon rims are the ultimate choice for practical winter commuting.

Unfotunately for me, once you see something like this...

things are never the same

Even more dark matter

Proper ceramic - built in 2009 at Condor. I think Mavic stopped doing them shortly after that. Unfortunately I destroyed the rear rim, so now have front wheel in combo with OP CD rear on my steamroller.

My dad running OP ceramic, he said the braking performance is nothing to write home about despite all the fuss about ceramic being better*.

Did your behave similar?

*obviously it brake better in the wet.

^^ ^^^ Oof. If I had the money I would buy this bike today, given cost of Lightweights alone is £2.5k plus.

^ The braking surface isn't noticeably better in the dry, but the durability is great. Savings you make in replacing rims more than compensates the original outlay. Where did he buy them?