Fracking Hell...

Shit pun, I know, but gas fracking is something that really gets me pissed off and very worried.

I'm no expert, but it doesn't take an expert to realise how fucking risky this whole venture is.

don't take the word of some Northern lumox on the subject...

Here's a trailer for a doco on the subject, Gasland:
GASLAND Trailer 2010 - YouTube

Here's a in article in the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2012/apr/17/gas-gas

Here's Rob Newman's take on it, for what that's worth:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/17/fracking-aquifers-tap-water

and here's a government e-petition demanding a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing for shale gas in the UK:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/14271

Cheers.

Luci

isn't there supposed to be some highly secret US device hidden somewhere in Alaska that can create earthquakes
a super fracker listic expi ali doshious

ooof that didn't work quite as well as i'd hoped !

no but seriously isn't there ? allegedly ?

I wouldn't know about that...

The stuff that isn't secret, actually poisons our water supplies and definitely causes earthquakes sounds about as deadly as any secret überweapon hidden in Alaska!

Oh, and my main reason for posting all^^^that was to ask you to sign the petition.

Pleasethankyou.

signed. America is fucked already but no need to drag us down with them.

Oh I thought this was a Battle-star Galactica appreciation thread

Causing small earthquakes is a bit Bond Super Villain, but the alternative is going cap in hand to a genuine Bond Villain in Putin and Gazprom.

Be an interesting political landscape when if we disagree with something Russia is doing then we lose the ability to eat anything other than microwave meals.

I haz no microwave. I iz starve.

They've been doing this in morecambe bay, and we've been feeling the shocks on the rock. Seems silly to be doing it where there is already gas rigs and so close to a nuclear powerstation.

I haz no microwave. I iz starve.

Electric oven.

Phew!

Midgets can also be eaten raw.

Midget sushi

3 2 4 1

signed

I wouldn't know about that...

The stuff that isn't secret, actually poisons our water supplies and definitely causes earthquakes sounds about as deadly as any secret überweapon hidden in Alaska!

Obviously I'm not actually an expert, but this article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17726538 says that coal mining causes earthquakes too, and basically it's not as big a deal as it sounds, and at least fracking creates gas which is a relatively clean fossil fuel - so less bad for the environment than burning coal or oil. Basically two sides to every story and all - but unless we reduce our energy use, then we need it to come from somewhere, and you could make a case for fracking being less bad overall than coal, gas, nuclear etc.

But I can see why it's scary!

I am sure there have been other documentaries on this matter, and the terrible quality of the "drinking water" in a lot of the USA.

Causing small earthquakes is a bit Bond Super Villain, but the alternative is going cap in hand to a genuine Bond Villain in Putin and Gazprom.

And what is the alternative when that runs out?

When Russia's gas fields run dry?

yes, or at least past the peak.

I'd hope that we'd have an operational Tokamak by then, otherwise we are probably completely fucked.

Fusion isn't the only solution. Fact is that while people panic buy petrol for no reason, while objecting to windfarms near them we're completely fucked

Your solution is windfarms?

no, I don't have a solution, I understand that investment in research & development as well as installation of a combination of proven technologies before we have energy shortages is the only sensible way forward.