Unknown vintage track frame (prob Jaap van der Bergh) restoration

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  • Was pretty pleased when i came across this piece of sh*t the other day.. always wanted to restore a classic track bike.

    (Details after removing some of its parts:)

    As you can see it was build up as a roadie with parts from different brands. De left crank arm was still there (165 Campagnolo Pista) but the right one was replaced by a Sistar one.

    I've build it up with some parts i had laying around to see if the size and geo were alright for me.

    Used it a couple of times like that but couldn't let it stay ratty. So i broke it apart again. First thing i wanted to do was a repaint. The bike originally was blue and white, it later got a pretty bad paint job in yellow and white. So i took the parts off it and sanded it.

    At this point i really wanted to know who had build this bike. If it was something spectacular i might want to put down an extra few euro's to paint it properly.
    I already posted it in 'Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?' (here) and (here). Forumenger Zouo thought it was a RIH because of the drilled rear brake bridge and the drilled lugs. Because i live 10 minutes away from the guy who still makes these steel frames i paid m a visit. He told me right away it wasn't a RIH-build frame. The drilled lugs were never done by RIH and the chainstay on it wasn't either (the ones on my bike are too flat on the inside, or something like that..). The guy (Wim van der Kaaij, an absolute hero, still producing steel frames at the age of 75) then told me the frame i had was probably a Jaap van der Bergh's 'Bergh Sport' bike. This frame builder also lived in Amsterdam and made frames that looked a lot like RIH's. With this info i returned home, now i know it isn't RIH i will splash some blue/greyish color on it and build it up before spring starts.

    Some bike-porn entertainment can be found on the Tube of You's, mini-documentairy on mr Van der Kaaij @ RIH:

    BUILDING A RIH BIKE PART 1 - YouTube

    BUILDING A RIH BIKE PART 2 - YouTube

    An edit with English subs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=lyCYMEomx5I

  • "You came across it"

    Than i'm curious where! Nice project! Any ideas on how you are going to build it up?

  • lucky bastard!

  • "You came across it"

    Than i'm curious where! Nice project! Any ideas on how you are going to build it up?

    Flea market.
    I'm going to build it up with the little money i have. I need a lot of parts so every single one of m will be cheap. Maybe at some point i will do a proper, period correct build up with sexy parts. Will post some parts soon on here.

  • Wow, amazing find, congrats... pop it in Current Projects as you build it....

  • Almost done collecting parts..

    Pantographed Shimano aero seatpost. Drilled as well. It has an 'upside-down' seat clamp and a screw to ensure the seat angle.. is this normal for these posts?

    Shimano PD-A550 pedals

    Turbo Special saddle

    Cinelli Stem + 3TTT bars. Will probably use the Nitto bars and Dura Ace stem from my Lo-Pro project as well.

    Campy Strada 170 crankset, 50T chainring

    Cleaned these bits, they still look usable

  • It'll look proper classy with these parts even :)

    (well, except for the plasticky pedals!)

  • Still a cool project. It deserves some nice track pedals for sure!

  • Have been searching for a set of steel cages but couldn't find any.. Might use the Campagnolo pedals from the Concorde TT. Must.. Keep.. Build.. Lowbudget(ish)

  • Does it all have to be period correct?

  • Does it all have to be period correct?

    Couldn't care less, though I wouldn't put anything carbon on it..

  • I saw some track pedals on fixedgearlifestyle.nl, all city ones, only 20 euro, i did likethem. Maybe I will order them to test them.

  • Or go with some MKS Sylvans, E25,- and a good copy of the Campy track ones..

  • Those MKS pedals are quite nice but i'm a sucker for aero pedals.. so i think i'll be using these

    btw i'm still not sure about the origin of the frame&fork.. Good chance it's Dutch (maybe Bergh Sport, Presto, Reus?), all thoughts on this are welcome!

  • you got the saddle on backwards.

  • Lol, they're not conected yet.. but if he does put the saddle on like this, gaston will be proud!

  • fixed-gear-retro-tri

  • Friend of mine had to give a classic Volvo a new paint job on saturday and offered me to paint my frame at the same time in that color. I have no idea if it will turn out to be a color i really like but i didn't want to wait a lot more and he did it for free. It'll look a bit like this:

    Hopefully it will no be too purple or too brown.. would be cool if it's nice and red.
    Can't wait to built it up. Got a classic Rigida dp18 rearwheel, no brake wall, laced to a miche hub i'm going to use. Now need a 36h miche front hub and get it laced to a classic dp18 with a brake wall cause i'll be fitting a brake. Paul lever and a Shimano Tiagra caliper. Ordered some Michelin Dynamic Classic tires and black cloth bar tape as well. Never used cloth tape and i think it'll ride shit but it looks nice.

  • This is awesome

  • nice. awesome lugs

  • Photo doesn't work here :(

  • Picked it up yesterday. Color is very similar to the red on the volvo i've posted earlier. Inside, no flash, it's deep red and very dark. Using a flash it's candy red. Outside it's something in between. Reckon it will be nice in the summer :)

    MOARR:

    FLASH*

  • Love this

  • Flea market.
    I'm going to build it up with the little money i have. I need a lot of parts so every single one of m will be cheap. Maybe at some point i will do a proper, period correct build up with sexy parts. Will post some parts soon on here.

    Nice going! Eager to see it done justice with some nice parts. Sorry I wasn't much help in the identification dept.

  • Sorry I wasn't much help in the identification dept.

    No problem! Was a little surprised you didn't know anything about it though, ha. Indirect compliment for you my friend! Cool to see you on here. Cheers

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