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  • What does the Forkish cover? Not sure I need more bread books, but it's only a couple of quid on Kindle...

  • Flour water salt yeast?
    I personally think it’s a good and thorough explanation of techniques and processes. It’s a great introduction to making decent bread at home. I would say that the hydration is a little high for UK flours, and the yeast quantities are often a little too spartan. Also be aware that it assumes a very warm environment (average 21 Celsius), for proving times etc.

  • Its fridge proofed brother turned out a lot better.


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  • Care to share your ratios? I'm having a little difficulty finding the sweet spot.

  • I have the pdf/ebook of that.

  • I now have a kilo of dried yeast feriplast red, as a buyer who wanted it is not answering my calls or texts.

    Any one want any? can post.

  • It is interesting this.
    I tend to bake with a French Flour at the minute and compared to the Shipton stuff, which I reserve for feeding the starter and the occasional loaf, it gives a completely different textured bread.
    Now I do suspect thats due to the additive differences, but watching the Chinese cooking demystified latest release on the difference in granule size between Chinese and western AP/ bread/ pizza flour was interesting.
    Might buy as like books whilst cooking, might ask @lynx for the pdf ;)

  • Are you talking about french bread flour? It has a lower protein content compared to uk bread flour and takes less hydration than uk/american/canadian flour, hence goes stale quicker than uk baked breads as it has lower water content once cooked.

    Offered to put the books I have on pCloud as it is free and can share the links. Anywhere I can put the books up to share, for free, and I'll do it.

  • I'm using T65 with added Wheat germ.
    Its around 12.5%. As for PDF share- je ñ'ai aucune idée

  • No idea I'm not a baker, it is what I have read and what I have been told by french bakers when asked.

  • I was transferred the baking responsibility for today's loaf. This happened. Was it me or was I sold a turd?

    I tried to reshape it to go again, but it just stuck to my hands. I have been relieved of responsibility and now hopefully a foccacia can be salvaged from the wreckage.


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  • ^ crappy pics, composition wasn't high on my priority list just then.

  • Anyone got a good burger bun recipe? Aiming for Five Guys style

  • Pizza/bread thread crossover: leftover pizza dough into rolls.


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  • Looks like very wet dough and a banneton that hasn’t been floured enough

  • would that be consistent with the foccacia appearing cooked on top but also being simultaneously uncooked & welded to the tin underneath?

    It is just about edible.

  • May well take me a week or two to commission the vertical steam boiler.
    Assume I can have a 'T' to the espresso machine?

  • I used this recipe so
    500g flour
    360g water
    4-5g dry yeast
    1 tbsp brown sugar
    2 tsp salt

    I mixed and kneaded everything by hand instead of w a mixer as the recipe suggests.

    I think the two most important lessons I´v learned about making bagels are:
    -Don´t overproof!
    -Try to get as much air out of the dough as possible before the dividing and bagelshaping .

  • Thats not the silliest suggestion that I've heard! I reckon an espresso machine boiler would be perfectly sized to steam a normal sized oven.

  • Anyone have suggestions on what affects the "tightness" or chewiness of the crumb? I'd like to make some soft rolls that are light and fluffy, rather than pert firm...

  • Whilst a Dutch oven helps with spring and crust, it’s not supposed to ‘contain’ the dough. Your dough strength and loaf shaping should do that.

    I started off going straight for the high-hydration jugular and made a load of cow pats. Then I watched that Trevor Wilson video up-thread and tried his technique for a 65% hydration loaf. I haven’t baked anything else for a few weeks. I may try upping the hydration but tbh I find the crumb and texture of these amazing.

    I’m using
    100g levain @100% hydration
    870g White flour (extra patents)
    50g rye flour
    580g water
    20g salt
    Pinch caraway seeds as we like ‘em


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  • Update: The foccacia is now tasty croutons and it turns out there was an extra 50ml of water in yesterday's dough mix compared to the prev couple of loaves.

  • Yep, wet dough and poss over-proved too, maybe proved too warm?

  • Tried a new recipe from FWSY - field blend #2 which has a good bit of rye, but also incorporates some yeast as well as sourdough levain.
    Fridge fermentation was longer than recommended by about half, but turned out ok!


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