Hip Hop Skid Bikes / Hipster Sleds / HHSB

That headtube is great, it looks so industrial.

Master who made headtube has 43 years experience by turner :)

With a different seatpost and plain tape that would be perfect

i'm trying to. but as soon as i mention money they switch to silent mode.

hiya have you looked at your PMs?

To me, 50% isn't enough.

It's not slander if it's true is it?

to me they haven't sent you what you bought, you bought a frame that by the pictures on their website showed smooth welds and that is grounds to be refunded, i also wouldn't be paying for the shipping costs of them to retrieve it,

the fact that they've had costs has nothing to do with you as they are a business and should be upholding the quality that they promise through their product photos.

black and yellow Airpusher looks similar to my Wintermusher

... pre abomination

On another subject

Forcing rat, surely = HHSB?

Forcing rat == filing down your selvedge denim to create wear patterns and adding creases behind the knees.

I'm not saying for sure that it is not HH, but I am saying for sure that it can >>>>>>>>>

^^ Lol, that frame actually wasn't bad before you got your hands on it..

after unintentional chain dropping leading to bottom bracket and chain stay damage the honeymoon was over...

now its going through its 1st full winter of riding contrary to its previous preservation mode

balance of staring at it vs riding the shit out of it was well achieved '2013

i have in fact.

thanks for your all your messages up until now, sorry for the thread hijacking. at the moment i'm not sure what the best course of action on my part is. since i first posted about the incident here yesterday ingria have asked me how i would ideally solve the problem but when i asked them for a refund they went quiet.

twice now.

i think some money back would be fair. maybe 50% since they've had costs as well.

thing is, if i knew how shitty the welds were going to be i probably wouldnt have ordered one in the first place but the photos on their website always obfuscate the critical parts of the frames quality.

i know they have photos of "the process" as well but they mostly show the welds before they are being smoothened out so you still dont really know what youll get in the end.

the question is if they are intentionally hiding the shitty welds in their official photos or not, in which case it would be quite the deception.

since they've always been polite in their emails, i don't have evidence to call it fraud or fraudlike. i don't wanna just assume anything yet.

Full refund. It doesn't matter about their costs. The frame is inadequate, probably not fit for purpose and not as described/pictured. They should not be allowed to get away with such shoddy work. 50% is not enough.
I personally would demand a full refund or say you are going to send the photos around the whole cocking interweb world.

i see a few options they should offer you to choose from

1. full refund incl. shipping and all
   or
   
2. pearless new frame, top notch welds n paint.
   
   

in both cases they could decide to collect the old frame on their cost if they see the need to

If they don't play ball simply post daily images of that piece of shit on EVERY faggy fixie site on the intervebs.

Isn't it.

distance selling regulations mean you have 14 days from receipt of the item to get a full refund without question. Although you may have to pay for postage. IIRC

not sure dsr counts from russia

I thought it mattered for the country of the buyer?

...i'll give them until monday evening...

FYI
in post-soviet countries, Christmas is orthodox style, meaning 7th of January. additionally, New Year's day is a big holiday as well, so in essence, break period shifts week forward comparing to that in UK or Europe.
what i'm trying to say is that Russia is officially off 1st to 9th of January, and if you're a freelance fixie skidder frame builder you may as well slow your activities down by 31st December and not completely sober up until as late as 13th or 14th January. something to consider, although it's not like there's any real action you can undertake to make them refund tomorrow or something.
let us know what you're thinking to do in the end.

distance selling regulations mean you have 14 days from receipt of the item to get a full refund without question

I thought it mattered for the country of the buyer?

you're not being serious, are you? i think the guy has enough trouble already for you to be pulling his leg publicly like this

Reep?

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