Electronic & Hydraulic Shifting (Di2, Ui2, customisations)

Not sure about DA but I’ve seen a video of someone running Ultegra long cage on a 40T rear cassette without a wolf tooth. Add one in and you could presumably run even bigger.

Where's tolerably priced for di2 bits at the moment? I fancy slowly collecting the parts

I've used stock GS Ultegra with a 36T. I've not tried bigger than that although I think I have a 40T cassette the bike has been retired.

I'm running 6870GS (NOS) on an 11-40 cassette with no B-screw adjustment. The frame is a Surly Straggler, so the hanger probably meets MTB spec rather than road spec.

I could try it I guess but the hanger on mine is short.

Anyone have a spare 40cm (Deda Sizing, so 38 ctc) Superzero with favourable di2 routing?

Although the Superzero Alloy is supposed to be the same shape as the carbon, pretty sure the carbon one is narrower on the tops (although not necessarily more aero)

Anyone seen Red HRD FM Wifli group, going cheap?

Bah, one size up for sale, sorry.

Annoying. I have a 42cm, but need a 44 as it is so narrow at the hoods.

Alternatively any recommendations for a set of non-aero alu bars that have internal di2 / hydro routing?

I've not found one other than the Shimano Vibe which is sort-of internal. I'm probably going for the Bontrager Elite Aero VR-CF for my road bike though

Other than ease of setup, is there any reason to go with eTap over ultegra Di2? eTap will cost me 200 euros more than di2 but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra money.

I've got an ultegra mechanical group on the bike already so it's really just a mechs and shifters upgrade. Leaning towards the Di2 as I could take the rear mech from my gravel bike and give it a new Rx mech.

If you’re keeping the chain set and brake, then probably would stay di2.
Etap would be lighter though.

Personally I think it’s worth the extra. It’s much easier to fit and service than Di2, it’s lighter and the shifting paradigm is much more intuitive, right lever to shift up a gear, left lever to shift down and both together to shift the front derailleur. I like that it gives you feedback too, so when you shift you know it’s worked.
Di2 is quite different in that respect.

I also prefer the lever shape, but that’s very subjective.

I've already got di2 on one bike so I'm pretty comfortable with that. Turns out it's around 150e difference... got some thinking to do and have to decide whether will it just irritate me to see SRAM shifting with ultegra brakes and cranks.

Personally I think it’s worth the extra. It’s much easier to fit and service than Di2, it’s lighter and the shifting paradigm is much more intuitive, right lever to shift up a gear, left lever to shift down and both together to shift the front derailleur. I like that it gives you feedback too, so when you shift you know it’s worked.

Di2 is quite different in that respect.

Pretty much all this, and they're great to work on, the customer service in regards to warranty is very good (which SRAM have learnt a lots on).

As Andy said; lever shapes is the biggest impact; go for the one that felt the most comfortable, personally found the eTap levers to feel very neutral, like it felt like it can fit a wide varieties of hand shape.

irritate me to see SRAM shifting with ultegra brakes and cranks.

Nah, ironically found front shifting to be excellent with the Shimano chainset (as they're pretty well engineered for the price), and even cassette felt like it shifts better than SRAM's own.

Shifting performance is directly proportional to the amount of Shimano fitted to the bike.

Yeah here https://www.bike24.com/p2190410.html?q=Etap

I ordered post mount version from them Friday night, tracking says scheduled for delivery tomorrow. Pretty quick.

Shifting performance is directly proportional to the amount of Shimano fitted to the bike

How do Shimano brakes improve shifting performance? :)

Ed's spot on; Shimano cassette ftw, but SRAM dérailleurs' initial set-up is easier and they stay set up for longer.

I read the sram shifters require a bit of delicate setting up with shimano brakes... or is that if you're just an idiot and never set up and adjust rim brakes properly.

Cable pull is different between SRAM and Shimano, for some people it’s the end of the world, whereas others don’t even notice.

Sram fitted Bikes with direct mount brakes have been on shimano brakes for years. Most noticeably on the Aeroads of the pro teams.

Even a SRAM sticker makes your bike rebellious.

I read the sram shifters require a bit of delicate setting up with shimano brakes...

Nah, it's different but not like trying to set up cantilever brakes with a frozen sausage.

Actually just scrap it, buy a Colnago and super record EPS and feel niche and superior

Our cargo bike had di2 xt 11s rear mech on it, so much magic that I thin I'm going to have to convert every bike to electronic shift.
My road bike was meant to have it on but was too cheap and chose 6800 mechanical 10s ultregra instead (good but cable routing isn't the best and 10s road shimano stuff of that era was not great). Like the rest of the bike enough to tkeep it. Might treat myself to e8000 di2 when I've sold my other car. Less cars. More bike bling