£100 UH Cro Mo ebay frames

looks to me like a cycle speedway frame, very steep headangle and no rake on the fork. there are a lot of these available cheap. i chap i knew was considering buying a load to sell on at a tidy profit for a similar price. its cheap its heavy = slow. speedway geometry = stupid toe overlap and shit steering. it just makes no sense to buy it! why ask for opinions and then completely disregard them.

OK I may be asking for opinions, but that doesn't make me stupid. First of all, it is definitely not a speedway frame, end of.
Second, hardly any track bikes or modern road bikes have noticeable fork rake.
Third, many expensive track bikes/fixed gears have toe overlap, and nobody seems to care.
Fourth, I realise it's heavy, about a kilo heavier than a £500 frameset, and when built up you'd be talking nuts to think a kilo of non rotational weight makes a big difference in speed.
Fifth, the steep headtube angle does not mean shit steering, it means very responsive steering, like a track bike and unlike a time trial bike.
Finally, I'm not disregarding people's opinions, and Iam keeping my eye out for a nice frame in the classifieds, I was just wondering if there was any GOOD reasons why I shouldn't consider it. /rant

2.5kg is pretty heavy, even BMW's clusterfork is lighter by 200kg.

-177.5kg is certainly going to be light

......highly strung blibber blabber......................... I was just wondering if there was any GOOD reasons why I shouldn't consider it.

And were there any GOOD reasons or have you ordered one - a speedway bike that is.

1125g, just weighted mine (with canti mount brazed on).

2500g - 200kg = 1125g

What is that they say, u bin scobled?