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While I'm on did anyone go to Blackfriars this AM?
Also;
- Tulse Hill
- Brixton St Matthews
- Elephant/Lambeth/Blackfriars Road
- Parliament Sq
- Camden Town
- Tottenham Ct Road/gower street/Centrepoint
- Clapham Common (various)
- Battersea
- Vauxhall
- Crystal Palace Triangle (but this one isnt too bad as the traffic NEVER flows more than 10mph)
- ...
- Tulse Hill
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People often don't understand quite how much the bundling of trips in one bus reduces potential road danger.
I don't see how it does.
The idea that bus journeys save car journeys is based upon the false idea that drivers choose to leave their cars at home and take a bus.Nobody gets the bus if they have any other alternative.
The only time you'd catch a bus in preference to another form of transport is when the alternative is taking the tube.
If you can walk, cycle, take a taxi or drive you would.Therefore none of the people taking buses would otherwise be driving. They are on the bus because they have no other choice, save perhaps the tube.
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No, why?
There was some sort of cycle protest about the road design at Blackfriars, I only heard about it by accident when i followed a link to this site;
there is more info here;
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Ah, thought you meant that but was unaware of anything happening today. That 'flashmass' event happened several weeks back.
yes but there was another one today, twas more generally aimed at TfL rather than Blackfriars redevelopment plan specifically. I just wondered if folks on LFGSS were involved in campaigning at all.
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It does have a very poor collision record for cyclists. I looked at the figures some years ago.
thanks for this. I do sometimes wonder about the relationship between perceived danger and actual rate of incidents. Seems to me that some places 'feel' dangerous but that can actually make most motorists more careful and alert. When I first moved to london I thought cycling round Aldgate figure-of-eight was surely suicidal, but I soon got used to it.
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Don't agree BQ. Buses are viewed differently now in London since bus lane enforcement has really kept drivers out making bus trips genuinely quicker than car trips. As an alterntive to cycling sitting on the front top of a bus taking in the view can be quite fun
Tell that to the bloke who was stabbed on one the other day.
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I don't see how it does.
The idea that bus journeys save car journeys is based upon the false idea that drivers choose to leave their cars at home and take a bus.Nobody gets the bus if they have any other alternative.
The only time you'd catch a bus in preference to another form of transport is when the alternative is taking the tube.
If you can walk, cycle, take a taxi or drive you would.Therefore none of the people taking buses would otherwise be driving. They are on the bus because they have no other choice, save perhaps the tube.
Plenty of people (hopfully decreasing numbers in last few years but still) think the same about cycling. Too poor to even catch the bus etc. Doesn't make it true. some of the people would otherwise be driving.
Incidentally, a direct alternative of taking the tube, I'm more likely to take the tube than bus. But prefer walking and cycling to the bus. This is true for me.
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Super sketchy times on Aldwych this morning, on the left turn just before the Novello. City Sprint van coming from westbound on the Strand flies straight round the corner of the A4 and ends up millimeters away from bowling straight into three cyclists (going straight on, Euston direction) as he cross two lanes and turns sharp left into Exeter Street. Tend to see similar situations daily, but never seen anyone get that close to steamrollering three people over in one swoop before. What is wrong with people?!
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There seems to be some movement on King's Cross:
http://kingscrossenvironment.com/2011/12/21/tfl-shifts-on-kx-killer-gyratory/
Nice map showing the ridiculous extent of it (although Pancras Road is two-way):
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Forwarded from the Islington Cyclists' Action Group. Apologies for cross-posting.
Dear all
A slow cycle/walk around Archway is taking place this Thurs 1st March as part of a campaign to remove the roundabout there. We'd be very grateful if you could forward this to any of your members that might be interested in taking part, or publicising it using the suggestions below, especially the north London groups.
If are a facebook user, if you are coming, please say so on the event page. Whether you are going or not, please go through your fb friends list and go to the event page and invite all your friends that live around north Islington or who cycle from Highgate, Muswell Hill, East Finchley, Fortis Green etc. Also fb will let you create a list of 'locals' now for similar occasions! If you haven't got time right now, then simply like our fb page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Islington-Cyclists-Action-Group/303491069704880.
If you are a twitter user, please tweet the icag webpage and we'll retweet you.
http://www.icag.org.uk/2012/ride-for-a-liveable-archway/If you don't use fb or twitter, then please just forward the event using email (ideally using the share button) on.
http://www.icag.org.uk/2012/ride-for-a-liveable-archway/Links to everything related, including the press release are attached to the above page.
Many thanks
Alison
Co-ordinator, Islington Cyclists' Action Group (ICAG)
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well done skully for starting this thread.
yes returning one way systems to two way flow gets my vote.
as ever thank you oliver for your tireless and patient campaigning.
you are an inspiration.