LOOK - Look at them!

Got these big dogs if you want them, but #nopanto

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Really cool frame

I got 53/39 zed 2 chainrings if you want. The one with silver touch on it

And stems (various length)

Haha, thanks but I’ve actually got some already (52/36) for a standard human…

Indeed, lovely seller who wasn't crazy about posting it - thankfully the stars aligned - my partner was working in Slough so I grabbed a lift with her and then just buzzed up in her car to collect it from Oxfordshire whilst she was at work.

Cheers, that's kind of you. The chameleon ones look pretty decent, it's the white and the black ones I'm not wild about. I also have a 565 and a 595, both brilliant. I'm trying to sell the 565 at the mo, but very happy to hang on to it too.

Yeah, there's a reason they were still in my parts stash.

I’m flogging my XL 565 “Limited Edition”. DM me if you’re interested

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Can anyone help point me in the direction of the necessary headset for a 785 Huez RS? My calipers died as I was measuring the headtube but it seems ~41mm at the top and ~51mm at the bottom.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295179918797?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ttkw5knis0g&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=9cfbyGwdQ6K&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

This only caught my attention because it's very local to me.

Wildly over-priced but the seller seems to be a "house clearance" type and ignorant in this regard, so the price is a probably a poorly researched guess and they'd be more realistic with cash in their face.

Judging by the mishmash of parts and the turbo trainer nut on the QR, I'd guess it's been well used before being demoted and finally retired.

Is the 166 going to be a noodle at this size or about to disassemble itself etc etc?

Was thinking £250/£300.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134214044562?hash=item1f3fc7cb92:g:CkYAAOSwzx1jDNlx

PS What are the shifters? Sachs seem to have been branded as such and I can't think of any Campy groupset names that fit.

Was thinking £250/£300

I was thinking £200, unless you're desperate to see off any opposition.

What are the shifters?

The logo on the lever bracket says Carbon and there's a Campag shield on the lever, which makes me think early Chorus, which would match the other components.

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are you asking what the text on the shifters is? I think it's "carbon". I'm pretty sure they are campagnolo

Thanks both!

No I'm not that interested, just that it's local.

Of course it's "carbon", I was stuck on "Neuron" or something similar.

Sachs used to have rebranded Campagnolo ergo shifters. But they might have had different pull ratio as I think they were Shimano compatible, but 8s pull ratio was close anyway between Campy and Shimano. (look for: New Success Ergo)

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I'm sure some judicious googling will tell the story, but I always thought Sachs actually developed the ergo shifter/did the design and campagnolo manufactured it.

https://lecycleur.com/parts/history-of-sachs-new-success/

The mounting bolts, swivel design and spring mount was a faint copy of the Shimano layout of the late seventies

How confident are we that this is the right conclusion? It seems to me that it's likely that both Shimano and Sachs were independently inspired by the improved Lucien Juy design then being offered by Simplex, e.g. SLJ6000 from 1975

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There was an article in Cycling in the early 1990s about an English or Scots engineer.
He said Campagnolo had contracted him to design an ergopower system. There were pictures of some bits he had made for it. He was annoyed that he had signed over his rights to the design and could not market it himself.
He said two or three other designers had been contracted as well but Campagnolo kept all their identities secret.
He hinted about a non-disclosure agreement. No more was ever revealed.

To be honest nothing has changed since Lucien Juy / Simplex design, nowadays derailleurs are still a collapsible parallelogram. The lonely other improvement was indexing.

From Simplex 1975 catalogue:

https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=20151&g2_page=2

The lonely other improvement was indexing

That's not strictly true, Suntour's decision to slant the parallelogram and Shimano's use of a floating sprung B-pivot could both be called material improvements at the time, although they're not considered essential as SRAM (current owners of the old Sachs cycling properties) is now back to slantless parallelograms and fixed B-pivots on their X-Horizon range of 1× RDs. Plus ça change...

Veloce were Shimano compatible but I can't for the life of me remember if they had ally or plastic brake levers

Took mine out for a spin recently -

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KG231 in CA colours. Mine is now retired, but absolutely loved that bike. Best bargain I ever got too, got a brand new frame for £140.

Newbie question, but will these handlebars work with the di2 bar end junction box?

https://www.bellatisport.com/shop/produc­t/6388/Look_ADH1.2_Road_handlebar.html