"Is dangerous cycling a problem" BBC

But then what is 'fast' on a bike? To some 15mph is considered fast but to me it's something I would think of as moderate to slow.

I can answer that.

It's anything above 18.8mph. That is my average on my Wednesday loop and I just can't beat it.

But then what is 'fast' on a bike? To some 15mph is considered fast but to me it's something I would think of as moderate to slow.

say fast = dangerous or intimidating to others.

same applies to motor powered vehicles.

that way the government should reduce speed limits in all village, town and city centres to 20 mph. i believe such a move would transform all our lives for the better.

So you have to canvas everyone to check they're not intimidated before you ride or drive?

It's so subjective.

i am going to sign off now.

bye for now.

I think those people who don't know how to walk in public places should be locked away in their own homes, drivers who don't know how to drive properly should be given bicycles and be thrown on busy live traffic just to scar the shit out of them. But then on a 2nd thought, we already have enough people on bikes who clearly don't know how to ride a bike, so maybe this is not a good idea. Maybe Borris could introdue some tricycles for the incompetent ones?

If you go too slow, drviers don't like you. If you go too fast, drivers don't like you. If you go to the far left, drivers don't like you. If you stay right in the middle of the road, drivers don't like you. So the conclusion is, drivers don't like cyclists.

Ok, if we assume an England free of motorised traffic then what would happen to the roads that we rely upon?

Forcing drivers onto bikes might be a good idea - It's what farmers do when a sheepdog bites a sheep - chuck it in a pen with a ram, the dog soon learns to respect the sheep.

In this theoretical situation Somebody has won, all motorised traffic is banned and human powered vehicles are all that is allowed.

So- what would be the implications for the road infrastructure?

Edit: and society as a whole, come to that

Ok, if we assume an England free of motorised traffic then what would happen to the roads that we rely upon?

Don't even think about doing the road tax argument. That tax goes the the chancellor, not back to the local or highway authorities.

:)

In this theoretical situation Somebody has won, all motorised traffic is banned and human powered vehicles are all that is allowed.

So- what would be the implications for the road infrastructure?

Edit: and society as a whole, come to that

call me half hearted but i'd allow fire engines and ambulances.

Nope, same rule for everyone- no motorised transport.

People in mobility scooters will get a pass, so as not to be mean.

I have a question. Do drivers/cyclists (people who drive and cycle both regularly) treat cyclists the same way as drivers who don't cycle? I know a few who hate cyclists when they drive and turn into asshole cyclists when they are on their 2 wheels.

But they must prove the need for the mobility scooter.

I'm not sure about many others but I personally try to treat cyclists with extreme caution. But then when I'm on the bike I get quite aggressive towards cars. When driving I can sometimes get aggressive towards other drivers who seem to have no brain.

I have a question. Do drivers/cyclists (people who drive and cycle both regularly) treat cyclists the same way as drivers who don't cycle? I know a few who hate cyclists when they drive and turn into asshole cyclists when they are on their 2 wheels.

I give cyclists the amount of room that I wish motorists would give me (when driving)

^ imagine a mobility scooter trying to go round the roundabout at Elephant and Castle 9:30am in the morning... they don't use roads anyway they use pavements, don't they?

Depends how drunk the driver is

I give cyclists the amount of room that I wish motorists would give me (when driving)

Then I certainly would like to cycle alongside you. :-) Not a driver who woudl throw a bottle at a cyclist who probably himself do cycle in a park over the weekend.

Round here mobility scooters are on the road. Fucking annoying things.

^ really? where are you? I think they are annoying, end of.

I give cyclists the amount of room that I wish motorists would give me (when driving)

+1

Slow down way in advance if it's not safe to pass and give them the ideal 2m birth when it's safe. It's actually not that hard.

Cyclists overtaking moving traffic on the left hand side?

F*ckin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I'm in South Wales. And most of the ones I see are from lazy cunts rather than people who actually need it.

hahaha... true... sometimes they can walk faster than me and are usually... um... how do I put this politely???? Hummm... with a BIG FAT ASS.

When I injuried my knee last Dec, I demended a mobility scooter but they gave me crutches instead... NHS cuts I was told... LOL...

I met a charming old guy in Holland who had a BMW motorcycle top-box and fog lamps on his mobility scooter.

He was touring northern Europe on it. Again.

In this theoretical situation Somebody has won, all motorised traffic is banned and human powered vehicles are all that is allowed.

So- what would be the implications for the road infrastructure?

Edit: and society as a whole, come to that

Pedestrians would start doing tricks in the middle of the road. They don't even pay road tax and are in the way of cyclists.

+1

Slow down way in advance if it's not safe to pass and give them the ideal 2m birth when it's safe. It's actually not that hard.

Cyclists overtaking moving traffic on the left hand side?

F*ckin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You say that but I always try to overtake on the right hand side but partly due to stupid/inadequate/dangerous cycle infastructure cyclists are conditioned to rigidly stick to the left even when passing junctions they have no interest in turning down*. As a result trying to overtake properly on Tower Bridge in the mornings can be tough. I recon some drivers see coming up on the left and purposly stay to the right as they feel, "do one! I've given you bloody cyclists enough space on the left!"

*The junction of Bishops Gate becoming Shoreditch (with Great Eastern St on your left) is a strong example of this.