Best cyclocross bike under £1000 and other CX chat

^^ I'd be interested to see how those dualbangers perform.

The question is whether they work as well on the road brake shifter, the BB5 worked reasonably well insofar.

The question is whether they work as well on the road brake shifter, the BB5 worked reasonably well insofar.

I doubt it. The design requires careful set-up, to use the entire cable pull of Vee levers. With road levers I guess they'd be weak, or rubbing all the time.

This^ was exactly my findings running Campag Ergos with BB7s, i.e. weak or rubbing. Neither was optimal.

Except the Dualbangers should only work with V brake leavers, whereas the BB7s should work with road leavers. They just don't.

Well, they don't work with some road leavers (looks at Campag). Seem fine with SRAM and Shimano.

Cough cough.

Out of interest, what do you lose / gain with the problem solver? Do you lose immediacy in return for less fussy pad adjustment?

Lost nothing, other than a clean fork leg, gained silence and power.

It's a kludge, for sure, but it transformed the BB7/SRAM lever combination from a frustrating pain in the arse that did not work properly, to a system that I really like (and ride every day).

Previously if you set the pads far enough out not to drag on the rim the brake lever would hit the bars before pulling the arm on the caliper far enough to clamp down on the disc.

So you had to have pads that dragged, in order to be able to stop.

Except the Dualbangers should only work with V brake leavers, whereas the BB7s should work with road leavers. They just don't.

Well, they don't work with some road leavers (looks at Campag). Seem fine with SRAM and Shimano.

Doesnt Sram and Campag have the same pull? With DA being a bit odd.

I really cant be bothered with road actuated disc calipers. I'm not racing so I can live with the separate shifter.

Out of interest, what do you lose / gain with the problem solver? Do you lose immediacy in return for less fussy pad adjustment?

MTB levers pull more cable. Road levers have more mechanical advantage.

So I guess you lose some mechanical advantage in return for more cable pull.

So long as the levers dont become too hard to pull (when using a road caliper, calibrated for high advantage), and the caliper doesnt simply bottom out. Its a neat solution.

The fact that Dammit has'nt reported the brake bottoming out early. Makes me think that road BB7s have an issue.

The instructions explicity forbade me from using the problem solver with the Road BB7, presumably in case of these things- none of which have happened.

Doesnt Sram and Campag have the same pull? With DA being a bit odd.

I don't know :) I just know they didn't work for Andy with Ergos.

The fact that Dammit has'nt reported the brake bottoming out early. Makes me think that road BB7s have an issue.

I wonder if they were designed solely for 70kg midgets like me. You lot are just too fat ;)

SRAM and Campag are basically the same in terms of pull, DA and Ultegra now have longer cable pull with reduced mechanical advantage compared to the old DA and Ultegra- this is made up for by the calipers for 7900/6700.

It'd probably be quite interesting using one of these shifter/lever units with a mech disc brake to see what happens.

I wonder if they were designed solely for 70kg midgets like me. You lot are just too fat ;)

I'm 6.5kg heavier than you.

Make that sixteen - it seems I don't know my own weight.

Are you calling me fat?

Nah, I only just make the BMI chart.

Cough cough.

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I realised Evans sell them now, but the picture look different;

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Is your a different one? as the hole is perfect for the low ride rack mount on the Genesis' fork.

Your picture is the reverse of mine- the other side of the device, in other words.

It's the same device.

Excellent.

Off to order a pair.

Look like it can be fitted on the front rack mount;

It also mean I can mount it on the rear's rack mount, perfect, can't wait for tomorrow.

Right, I got it, however it's a v-brake one rather than disc annoyingly enough, netherless I went ahead and installed it near the bar with a barrier adjuster, lo and behold, it not only work brilliantly making it feel like a really decent capper brakes, but a lots tidier than the disc version.

Next step is to shorten the cable housing a bit.

I'd be interested to compare the performance of this mod to the standard set-up I have. What kind of cable housing did the bike ship with, Ed?

If I find £250 down the back of the sofa for the Hope Hydro setup you can have my BB7/Goodridge cables/problem solver.