Proper selvedge jeans

Even the raw stuff?
All LVC lines are. The denim is still Jap or Cone Mill, but all put together in Turkey.

Learning stuff today. I didn't realise that;

1) American Classics was still around since King's Road shop closed.

When AC was on the Kings Road they used to stock Stussy and be all 'street.'

Quite the opposite now ey

Certainly is!

King's Road slowly but surely went mainstream. I feel a bit sad when I ride down there now with the markets and AC long gone.

A good change for AC though. I will have to check them out.

I used to come up to 'Town' from Pompey as a young pup . Check out Soul 2 Soul shop, AC and some sports shop in Vauxhall that got new Filas in early doors. Also nose pressed against Duffer window wondering if I could ever afford it.

Even the raw stuff?

Yep, ALL the denim

Nice! SP is on point.

How much do they retail for now?

1999-2003 = £115
2003-2005 = £125
2003-2007 = £135
2007-2010 = £155
2011-now = £215 AND made in fuckin Turkey!

All LVC lines are

Not all, the shirts/jersey/t's are made in Portugal / Italy / Turkey / Morrocco...some bits still in USA

1999-2003 = £115
2003-2005 = £125
2003-2007 = £135
2007-2010 = £155
2011-now = £215 AND made in fuckin Turkey!

You can get proper made in the USA Levis still. I was in Boston and they relaunched the whole range of 501s from the first style to the latest. $250 a pair. Was a little much for me, so I settled for ones made in mexico instead ( $110 ).

Not sure if you can get them over here though

Hmm here's the US link anyway

http://us.levi.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=11326985

think you need to goto their boutique stores for the ones I saw in Boston

1999-2003 = £115
2003-2005 = £125
2003-2007 = £135
2007-2010 = £155
2011-now = £215 AND made in fuckin Turkey!

That's bonkers. I know the price of raw materials has gone up but that's nearly 8% per year.
Forum whip round for some denim bought on Alibaba?

What is the actual difference of where it is made? i.e. are the turks that bad at the construction? Are US employees that good? Or is this like Taiwanese plastic frame snobbery?

One thing is for sure: My wages do not go up like that

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There will be people that are better judges than me on that, but if I look at the Diesel jeans that I wore in the early 90's compared to the shit they started churning out once they were more mainstream it's not a good sign. Same goes for Edwin and Carhartt with their selvedge jeans that are produced in Tunisia.

ah, the eighties/nineties: diesel, replay, liberto, el charro

what was the term? paninaro?

Not all, the shirts/jersey/t's are made in Portugal / Italy / Turkey / Morrocco...some bits still in USA

I apologise. Everything I've seen in AC of recent made by LVC have been Turkish so I made an incorrect assumption. If anyone in this thread hasn't checked out AC, do it! It is a little bit pricey, as in most of the time it'll be full RRP, but the owner and manager are great guys so I don't mind paying a fiver extra for stuff.

On a slight side note, if anyone is a Red Wing wearer, why have prices shot up recently? My chukkas were £120 in 2009...now they're £200!

Have you ever driven an American car?

+1

if you want jeans looking good, you need to spend time in them. It's all about the sweet spot, after a year of everyday wear they get really good, then it's usually a matter of months before they collapse...

So true.

Almost there with my current Garb Stores but they're showing wear and thinning at the crotch and will no doubt explode about a day after they reach perfect maturity.

What is the actual difference of where it is made? i.e. are the turks that bad at the construction? Are US employees that good? Or is this like Taiwanese plastic frame snobbery?

I don't know much about clothing, but speaking to friends in the product / furniture business, english manufacturing has been completely dropped by the chinese. They have now caught up in everything – price, quality, speed, communication, support, you name it. The only real benefit from uk manufacture is the ability to label it 'made in the uk' and then hike the price up a bit.

ah, the eighties/nineties: diesel, replay, liberto, el charro

what was the term? paninaro?

I guess those brands were like true religion is like these days. i.e. not something your dad would wear.

^ unless your dad is katie price, no he wouldn't

but marks and spencers caters for all occasions so...adequately

What is the actual difference of where it is made? i.e. are the turks that bad at the construction? Are US employees that good? Or is this like Taiwanese plastic frame snobbery?

It is kind of like 'Made in Britain.' I know that means nothing now, but just say it did, it carries prestige, quality control, means it is usually well built. Now compare that to what people think of when something says 'Made in China.' Mass produced, lack of quality control, cheap, poorly built.

Exactly the same principle for jeans. I would rather wear something that said made in Japan, than something that says made in Turkey because it has a reputation for well made products. As is evident from the quality between a pair of my made in Japan Edwin's vs my made in Turkey Nudies. I know they're different companies but the quality is on a different level.

My Edwins were made in Tunisia (of Japanese denim) and it pisses me off no end.

tunesia, is that when you have that ringing in your ears?

that's it..