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• #102
I was in foreign yesterday, taking a cab to the airport.
The driver was a bit shit - a bit too close to the cars in front, and bit abrupt with his lane changes.
At every junction, however, he made damn sure that he gave any person on a bike plenty of space.
One quick google later, and I discover that yes, Poland does indeed have strict liability.
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• #103
Poland also has a crazy ape insurance set up where the car is insured rather than the driver.
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• #104
My cousin who is a ambulance driver/paramedic asked me last year "why do cyclists ride so faraway from cars".i told her about the door zone and that the first cyclist the previous year died from being doored.We need a major TV campaign to inform the public why cyclists ride 1-1.5 metres away from parked cars,until this happens we going to continue getting irate drivers shouting,hanging on our back wheel and being threatening.20 mph limit across London is a great idea
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• #105
Yes a good point
Or ensure anyone drives learns this as part if a diving test and will fail if they pass too close -
• #106
pretty sure you already do fail if you pass too close to a cyclist. being too close to anything is a no no and drummed in to you when your taking lessons.
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• #107
^ Depends when and where you took lessons and/or the test. I learnt to drive in Slough c. 2010 - we never encountered cyclists on those roads, so there was precious little talking through how to manage encountering cyclists. I presume that learning in London is different though...
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• #108
pretty sure you already do fail if you pass too close to a cyclist. being too close to anything is a no no and drummed in to you when your taking lessons.
Problem is 'too close' is subjective and the highway code is vague (give cyclists the same space when passing as you'd give a car).
People who ride in primary almost all the time in town will rarely experience close passing (apart from undertaking cyclists ) I image people who ride in the gutter or squeeze left past buses at lights are more used to and have a higher tolerance to being passed close.
(Personally I don't mind cabbies passing close but not other drivers)
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• #109
^ Depends when and where you took lessons and/or the test. I learnt to drive in Slough c. 2010 - we never encountered cyclists on those roads, so there was precious little talking through how to manage encountering cyclists. I presume that learning in London is different though...
not much different if you experience cycling in london you will realise that as in Slough london car drivers are given very littler talking through how to manage encountering cyclists. they are probably taught how to force them off the roads.
Cav thinks Strict liability is a good idea
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3451896.ece