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views on correspondent brogues? Could they be worn as a casual shoe with jeans without me looking a bit of a pillock?
Brogues ****are ****a casual shoe. Given how denim pants are now considered acceptable casual the combination is quite mainstream. Tweed jackets, denim pants and brogues are a standard global "academic" uniform".
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awesome, thanks folks!
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The next question would be, best way to polish them?
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I love corespondent, saddle and two-tone brogues.
I wear them both casually and formally.
Why not?!
They are ill-suited to fomal occasions. Formal shoes are court shoes (pumps)
and variations thereof.. save for highland wear.. where buckle brogues are de rigueur
And for some mess dress (george boots)
and a number of variations in between ... such as
Formal is nearly always patent or (better yet) box calf polished to a high gloss (which rivals patent).
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The next question would be, best way to polish them?
Shoe polishing.. a bigger topic than "what shoe with what".. Its something that a number of companies offer training seminars about...
A water shine is perhaps a good start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seiZ5GEZa-Q
(found this looking to see if someone made a suitable instruction guide) -
Grensons today
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Patent is a bit OTT for most things>>>>
I rock a nice plain polished black leather oxford for formal occasions.Having said that, I went to an industry (engineering) "awards dinner" recently and there were twunts there with all kinds of their own "interpretations" of black tie, including pointy shoes, grey shoes, brogues, brown(!!) shoes, black shirts, white pencil ties, hair gel, jackets and shirts with contrasty piping, all looking like an utter shower of arseholes.
Don't get me started on the watches they were wearing goes to watch thread for a moan
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For the desert boot lovers out there, my local (Dartford) TK Maxx have got these in stock for a shade over £40. They're made by these people... http://goodyearweltedshoes.com/products/casual?nggpage=2
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http://www.present-london.com/files/gimgs/8995_bass-larkin-burgandy.jpg
sorry about previous post.
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I thought this thread was about "proper" leather shoes. Clarks sells proper leather shoes like ASDA sells Olympic class track bikes. Clarks shoes were never terribly good but these days they are just like a number of other British brands: offshore made !@#$. Its about price and margins and not quality and proper fit. Calling these "proper shoes" is the ill that killed the British and American shoe industries (albeit a boost for orthopedic and bariatric doctors)...
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fair dos...they're quite comfortable though, I had some in school.
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Those shoes are a satanic abortion.
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Hehe, obvious troll is obviously not obvious enough!
On a serious note, anyone got recommendations for dress-boots that are un-fussey, smart but with no brogue details etc. Something to last!
A bit like these:
or these, but with laces/in black:
My grensons up the page are also available in plain oxford no brogueing
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Patent is a bit OTT for most things>>>>
I rock a nice plain polished black leather oxford for formal occasions.I almost agree. With box calf leather one can get a much better shine than with patent--- its just a lot more work (ask any soldier). That said patent leather has had a kind of come-back making it also suitable for edgy casual wear.
Having said that, I went to an industry (engineering) "awards dinner" recently and there were twunts there with all kinds of their own "interpretations" of black tie,
The problem I think is less the people that show up wearing cowboy boots and jeans to "white tie" events than those that print "black tie" or "white tie" on their invitations meaning instead to say "shirt and shoes" to the former and "clean shirt and shoes" to the later :-)
To be honest, of course, there is no single formal day, "black" or "white" tie evening costume but a number of local rules and protocols and they are not wholly fixed in the 19th century. These days, for instance, tailcoats are no longer de rigueur to an audience. Women at Ascot can wear any hat they want but not even the Queen of England is allowed to wear white when meeting the Pope--- white is reserved for Catholic Queens.
Guides associated with the name Debrett in the UK, Knigge in Middle Europe and Emily Post in the US are quite common.
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Oliver Sweeney...Look after them and they'll last decades, seriously!
I have three pairs that I wear on rotation and get them "serviced" every 12 months at a cost of £125 a pair, bearing in mind that I wear them all day every day I don't think that's too bad - I used to wreck £100+ pairs of shoes every three months
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Just ordered a pair of Frye Phillip inside zip boots. Heard good things about them, so risked ordering on the interwebs. They are what I've been looking for for ages. Good for work, casual for nights out
http://www.thefryecompany.com/mens-boots/view-all/87541/phillip-inside-zip
(note: delivery to SF, not london!)
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I love corespondent, saddle and two-tone brogues.
I wear them both casually and formally.
Why not?!