Amphetamines

I've only ever heard about 'good' coke once or twice where it's made peoples entire face go numb and they've had to sit down and get themselves together for an hour

Mkay?

I've only ever heard about 'good' coke once or twice where it's made peoples entire face go numb and they've had to sit down and get themselves together for an hour

i've had that. it's great

YouTube - Bill Hicks - Positive Drug Story

Freebasing is the answer. Purify the shit!

But seriously, amphetamines are much worse. It takes very little to get totally addicted and the signs of addiction are visible after a very short time. You can't hide it.

Or perhaps it was because where I'm coming from, the speed is potent and pure (and coke is non-existent).

Psilocybe semilanceata
Cannabis (Sativa x/or Indica)
I can do without the rest.

The best buzzes in the world do not involve clouding your synapses, however ... cycling down a massive hill. Walking up a massive hill and looking at the view. Sexy time. Playing live music in an ensemble. Those sorts of things.

Didn't even know street level speed existed these days with the amount of 'legal' research chemicals doing the rounds in recent years. The Mephedrone saga pretty much nailed the cheap and easily obtainable market and it got everyone suitably fucked so the need for speed as it were, diminished from my field of vision at least. However, since the drone has been banned the chem manufacturers have been on a constant cash in with new products which are all shit, untested and down right dangerous considering the amount of naive kids buying it all freely on line. All of a sudden phet doesn't sound so bad, at least there's knowledge out there of its effects and how to deal with its abuse.

This isn't to say I've noticed a massive influx of speed since the banning of mephedrone, if anything it's brought MDMA back on the scene purely through demand thus pills have made a comeback and apparently they're of decent quality and prices reflect this.

Coke will always be in demand but as mentioned purity is lame unless you're willing to pay absolute sky rocket prices.

MDMA never went away really - the squat-party scene is fuelled by it, and ketamine in particular. When MDMA is good, it's unstoppable. Mephedrone is really not very nice though. It works, but you feel wrong afterwards. I've always been suspicious of legal highs anyway.

I've not heard about the resurgence of pills - everything is cyclical, the drug trade included, and they're long overdue a bit of a comeback, as not since the mid/late 90s has there been a wave of regular, good quality ones on the market. Everything went really mongy for years after then.

+1 to Skully though - I'm at a time in my life where I recognise where the most satisfying and rewarding of kicks come from, and it's not from bunging crap up your hooter.

Psilocybe semilanceata
Cannabis (Sativa x/or Indica)
I can do without the rest.

The best buzzes in the world do not involve clouding your synapses, however ... cycling down a massive hill. Walking up a massive hill and looking at the view. Sexy time. Playing live music in an ensemble. Those sorts of things.

Awwww, I just want to give you a big hug, you old yoghurt weaver, you.

MDMA is great fun, the come down is nothing to the one from Mephedrone, which is it's biggest problem really. It's awful stuff, and the come down is so bad that you never want to feel it, so keep taking it. Ketamin is good as well, although it seems to have an opposite effect on me, giving me more energy.
Fuck hallucinogens.

These days I stick to Cialis.

I got a job in a warehouse working 6-2 shift, I was struggling with the early starts and everyone in the place was dabbing base speed (some yellowy wet pastey shit) all shift. I gave it a go and it perked me up no end, made me dead chatty and gregarious too.

The win was that I had my afternoons free and the garden needed a good sort out. I hit that motherfucker like Tommy Walsh, got it looking like a Chelsea gold winner in a fortnight. The Mrs would come home and cook dinner but I just wanted to keep on working. She was well chuffed, I lost 2 stone and I realised if I took my last dab about midday I would have the use of my dick back by bedtime - home improvement seems to work wonders on the female libido.

Then your gums started to bleed and you had a little heart attack!

Man, i'm starting to sound like Will.

Not really. Football and drugs. Only ever met a couple of people who could talk in an interesting way about football. And none who could talk in an interesting way about drugs. Including your 'friend'.

I used to dab it on my tongue rather than the gums, which presents the practical problem of getting rid of the taste. I realised it was time to move on when I was getting out of bed and dabbing immediately so I could clean my teeth straight after. Seemed like slightly unreasonable behaviour.

Not really. Football and drugs. Only ever met a couple of people who could talk in an interesting way about football. And none who could talk in an interesting way about drugs. Including your 'friend'.

Pow! That told me. My "friend" doesn't particularly want to discuss drugs any more than he wants to take them. For the record I thought this thread was surprisingly level headed and interesting. It's also totally free of bragging, whining or any of the usual drug-bore stories. It made me wince in recognition and smile too. Good thread. Should probably be in "private" though. Anyway, I'm done.

I used to dab it on my tongue rather than the gums, which presents the practical problem of getting rid of the taste. I realised it was time to move on when I was getting out of bed and dabbing immediately so I could clean my teeth straight after. Seemed like slightly unreasonable behaviour.

You shoulda bombed it in a Rizla

Base is good I have to say

Should've bombed it bombcup.

EDIT: Eightball stole my bomb bomb thunder. Damn you!

He he!

You don't really hear about speed being used as a recreational drug these days. Or maybe i'm just not moving in the right circles. Are certain youth cultures still using it? If so, who?
Just interested...

Spaniards. N.1 drug of that nation, along with Haxixe.
(At least Basque country, my ex-flamate from Bilbao, used it for years almost as weed...

+1 to the late great Bill Hicks.

on top of which, the comedown (aparently) lasts for days and involves the most insidious, creeping form of self loathing and depression. very very unpleasant.

I found the come down from coke way worse then MDMA. That and also waking up and instantly wanted more were the reasons I gave up blow.

Back in the Rock And Roll Years (tm) when my lifestyle permitted such things, I always thought it a shame that rubbish coke was so popular in London, and speed so hard to find.
Polish speed is really quite amazing. I probably would have had some trouble if it had been easy to get here.
I always find it so annoying when the authorities take such pride in big coke busts, when all it really means is that everything people are buying is cut with more crap. It is usually the crap, rather than the drugs that fuck people up. Legalise it all, and let people choose what they want to do.

I found the come down from coke way worse then MDMA. That and also waking up and instantly wanted more were the reasons I gave up blow.

Only if you had a bucketloads. The worst come down is after speed, as it lasts longer (the "high" also last longer). All the heart pounding, high/low pressure, depression/paranoia bullshit.