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The police seemed to have been cowed a little after their willfully aggressive policing of last year's G20 protests, the TSG haven't cracked anyone's eye socket for weeks now - but after seeing students smashing up Tory HQ, the broken windows, the fires, missiles, assaults and so on - I bet ACPO can't believe their fucking luck, with the prospect of many more 'cuts' protests to come, the students have handed them on a plate the very excuse to return to a more 'robust' (kicking, shields in faces, broken teeth) approach.
A lost opportunity.
All the media saying how unprepaired the police were, how they let it get out of hand and how they didn't do enough to try and stop them has also just given the rozzers a good excuse to come out swinging (so to speak) at the next large protest.
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Are you sure it got as far as Pentonville Road !?! I could see the smoke from Hampstead Road / Euston Road (waiting for a bus to go to a school reunion - the bus never came), but saw no overspill from there and I was a fair bit closer than Pentonville Road.
Yup, in fact near the junction with Islington High St, this row of shops here:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=n1+9hf&sll=51.548544,-0.085723&sspn=0.0083,0.020406&g=n1+4rl&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=London+N1+9HF,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.531856,-0.10757&spn=0.001038,0.002551&z=19&layer=c&cbll=51.53186,-0.10743&panoid=YzCd3U88jLwy6SKVc0YMTw&cbp=12,327.83,,0,3.11They smashed the windows of the cafe and trashed the place but the hairdressers were alright because they'd paid for roll down security shutters (the same people who ran them now ran them back then). I think it was a breakaway group, but they must have been twats to smash up small independent businesses.
I don't doubt the stupidity of the cops in terms of strategy, really.
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Yup, in fact near the junction with Islington High St, this row of shops here:
Wow, that's even further than I thought - I was thinking you meant the King's Cross end !
I know those shops, just up the road from me.
I think it was a breakaway group, but they must have been twats to smash up small independent businesses.
Yep, sounds like it, I mean what's the fucking point, what were they hoping to achieve ?
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Funny. Ghandi managed without hurting people, but the "wisdom" of so many people is that violence is a good thing. I wonder how many of them have been physically hurt, badly. Or their children, or parents, or loved ones. Few I'd bet.
Funny, driver knocks someone off their bike, even unintentionally, and the blood bayers are out like a flash. Start battering coppers, or lobbing fire extinguishers off tall buildings, and it's all "good democratic protest".
If you like violence, do it properly, have a frikken war. They always make things so much better. Don't they?
its cute how poorly informed you are
And the rest of you are boring, more violence its the only "tactic" that has ever seen quick and meaningful change.
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Walk me through the repeal of the education cuts through the use of violence.
Easy, Chris will have them repealed by means of his posts.
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Fuckin students
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They smashed the windows of the cafe and trashed the place but the hairdressers were alright because they'd paid for roll down security shutters (the same people who ran them now ran them back then). I think it was a breakaway group, but they must have been twats to smash up small independent businesses.
I don't doubt the stupidity of the cops in terms of strategy, really.
That's Dean and Marks Hairdressers!- that's were I go to get my barnet weaved. Both absolute legends, and let you bring your bike in whilst you're there.
As you were.
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Naysayers, you ain't got a clue. Why don't you just sit on your arse and bitch, it's the British way, isn't it?
It's surely more helpful then trying to go out and...oh...wait....PS. Millbank Tower is owned by the 2nd wealthiest man in Britain (well, men, they're brothers, and they are jointly 2nd).
I'm sure a few panes of glass in a building that was too expensive for the UN to keep their office in won't notice paying a few people some extra money to sort out. And it being nearly christmas, I'm sure that they are happy to have the extra money. Ho, Ho, Ho. -
gonna go protest some shit up!!! POWPOWPOW!
i dunno why we're protesting, but i know i dont like it
[/typicalstudent]a message got sent
im really quite proud of students
(also i was in the HQ "brap brap etc")i dont suppose you got a photo of someone really not trying to hide their face and wearing a ghey black and white cardigan
coz that woulda been moiwhat an utter penis
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They're rich so they can afford to replace them? Oh, that's OK then...I might go and put a brick through my local Tesco's window then just for a laugh
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Actually, I think you should.
Or this one on Hovis Bread....
http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/business/tesco-war-with-hovis-over-wheat-price/35204.article
And this is something a bit closer to our hearts...
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Walk me through the repeal of the education cuts through the use of violence.
Because that is a real change that has been previously affected right?
(wow it feels good to be just as smug as you some times)
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Thats cause yer a septic tank..........
Fuck you.
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Aaron Porter - you're a pussy not a leader. Even if the protest was derailed, you should stick with the students you supposed to represent, you posh tit. It looks like you are only waiting to replace W. Hague in some near future, aren't you.
Tory politicians - Rules?! WTF? If people play by the rules, then there's no protest. Protests supposed to be bending rules by default, that's why they're called protest, you bunch of detached wankers.
Go students! Just do go overboard - adjust violence to the level of police brutality and government's idiocy.
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Because that is a real change that has been previously affected right?
You've lost me here ? I am not sure what you are saying.
I am asking you how you think - for example - the education cuts can be avoided with the use of violence, could you roughly outline what you think the process might be ?
(wow it feels good to be just as smug as you some times)
'Sometimes' is one word.
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Id like to see some of you playing the same tune if it was your property that was destroyed...
They're rich so they can afford to replace them? Oh, that's OK then...I might go and put a brick through my local Tesco's window then just for a laugh
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Are you sure it got as far as Pentonville Road !?! I could see the smoke from Hampstead Road / Euston Road (waiting for a bus to go to a school reunion - the bus never came), but saw no overspill from there and I was a fair bit closer than Pentonville Road.
I suppose you get sporadic acts happening when the bulk of the people are moving away from the main area, so I suppose it's not impossible, I just didn't realise that part of town caught any of it.
"the police weren't just stupid but really badly prepared - not enough men or and nowhere near enough riot shields, their radios didn't work properly etc. etc"
No, really they were stupid on this occasion, I don't doubt they were badly prepared, but it wasn't a lack of riot shields that compelled them to charge on horseback into crowds of people who they had trapped and had nowhere to go.