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• #32152
Learning the knack of using cutters/pliers is better IMO
It's not better, it's just faster.
After the years of learning!
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• #32153
It doesn’t take years, there’s a fairly straightforward technique (I say straightforward, I gave up trying to explain it to the apprentice, bless him) and it definitely helps to have a decent set of pliers/cutters. I’ll try and take a video later if I get the chance. Essentially you grasp te cable in your left hand, point your thumb on your left, and pivot the pliers where the hinge is on the top of your thumb, a bit like the motion of using a bottle opener. Because of the leverage it’s easier to snap off the insulation when it’s just been scored rather than having to cut it all the way through.
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• #32154
It's not so important in domestic as wring in fixed locations and little chance of vibration. But industrial and transportation a must.
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• #32155
I've got some knippex ones that seem very good. I had spent the last ten years just using a Stanley knife though.
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• #32156
What wires are you stripping?
Probably 2.5mm twin and earth and 2.5 or 1.5mm 3 core cable.
I've always used a sharp knife plus pliers or a leatherman or my hands. But TBH I find it a bit of a faff, usually results in stripping too much cable and the cutting section on my pliers isn't that great.
So all in all an automatic set appealed as I might be doing a reasonable amount sometime soon. Albeit only for that one sesh.
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• #32157
Treat yourself to the knipex multifunction pliers. You won’t regret it.
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• #32158
Hmmmm... I'm pretty much sold.
On the review I watched they put a ferrule on and crimped.
Why?
https://youtu.be/D7sRVMKu5Mo
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• #32159
You can put ferrules on stranded cables like flex where the copper is made up of lots of thin strands. The thin strands are easily damaged when you’re tightening a terminal screw so by adding a ferrule you get a more mechanically durable connection that provides a better electrical connection too.
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• #32160
Cheers. That makes sense.
I do have a set of proper crimpers. For bike wiring, but the stripping looks pretty easy and reliable
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• #32161
I took a punt on these ridiculous cheapies and found they work pretty well:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Automatic-Wire-Strippers-Cutter-Pliers-0-2mm-6mm-Parrot-Nose-Cutters-/284345891878They cut any size without adjustment and without nicking the conductor and they’re very satisfying.
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• #32162
These are great tools. I have the spring loaded ones. Not sure if that's better but I've got used to it. The smooth tips are great for holding a copper conductor if you need to move it carefully.
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• #32163
That'll be fine right,?
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• #32164
I’d definitely want to isolate it and open the box to see wtf is going on.
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• #32165
It's not connected to anything any more ha. Been stripping out the old wiring, and that was under a newish positive input device. Other wires chased on the shortest route(diagonally) etc.
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• #32166
Aha! The cut off wires on the side had me worried.
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• #32167
Tool for life, until you use them to trim a gear cable 🤦🏽
Worst part is I just checked my tool chest. The actual CK cable snips are right here.
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• #32168
Tool for life, until you use them to trim a gear cable
Despite the “do not cut steel” printed on my pliers, I absentmindedly cut a steel cable outer with my fancy pliers. Cue careful filing and much swearing.
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• #32169
Not actually DIY, but having an extractor fan fitted in the bathroom. Shower is on the far left and creates most of the moisture.
Logic says position A, but it will be an eye sore and my partner is not keen.
Alternative is B, more hidden but it is above the boiler - is this legal (will be a different wall to the flue) and also, will being above the boiler mess with airflow and the humidity sensor?
C is the worst of both worlds but may have to settle for it.Any thoughts welcome.
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• #32170
I don't have any advice on location but I would suggest buying a unit that user reviews state is silent. we have a unit in an internal cloakroom toilet and it was specced by the builder (so cheapest of the cheap low end choice) - thing sounds like an airbus. this has its upsides (discretion) but we'll probably swap it out eventually
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• #32171
Yeah, I did a lot of reading and went for a well reviewed 'silent' one.
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• #32172
In line or direct? Presumably no space of any ducting in ceiling.
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• #32173
Direct I think. Fan on wall inside, hole thru wall, grille on outside.
It's the bit out the back of a victorian terrace so both walls are external. -
• #32174
Any thoughts welcome.
Location shouldn't be that important as far as efficiency is concerned. If it's getting rid of humid air, the humidity will quickly spread to all parts of the room. I'd put it wherever's easiest.
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• #32175
Any thoughts welcome.
As it's going to be direct I'd go B. to hide it. While I agree with trying to get something quieter with 2 external walls I'd make extraction volume the priority. Although having a boiler in the room will probably help a lot.
You’re going to have to have a word with all the electricians I work with then, lol.
The key is learning to score the sheath or insulation enough that it’ll strip without going all the way through to what’s below - either the insulation beneath, or the conductor itself.
I use these, they have strippers for 1.5 and 2.5mm cores, and I use the cutters for the sheath and any cable cores thicker than 2.5mm. Everyone else I work with just uses a pair of snips or a knife tho.