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• #19127
Do low pressure bar mixer showers make an appreciable difference to water volume?
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• #19128
Just as a point of information, those bayonet fittings behind the cookers are not for the general public to connect or disconnect their own appliances despite it seeming to be the obvious reason for them.
You need a gas safe engineer to install or disconnect an appliance even using the bayonet and they will carry out a drop down test on the whole installation once the work is done in order to check there are no leaks.
Carry on as you wish but know that you can be prosecuted if the worst happens. (which it probably won't). In the case of the leaking cooker you would have justification for unplugging the bayonet and calling a gas safe engineer as it would clearly have been a safer route than whatever else you have been trying!
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• #19129
Amidst the talk of gas cookers this question I asked elsewhere may be more relevant here:
Any thoughts on gas ovens and grills? Most modern electric ovens would require a wiring upgrade so considering a gas oven. They used to be a bit crap with pretty inconsistent temperatures. Are they any good nowadays?
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• #19130
Fossil fuels aren't really the vibe these days.
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• #19131
I imagine they are just set up for a lower supply pressure so that it can still be mixed with a normal cold pressure. It will rate limit the total supply to achieve the temperature you've set so the water volume could be appreciably lower if you want a high temperature and your hot water supply is low pressure.
There are no cheap ways to achieve higher hot water pressure, you ether need a storage tank with good pressure or a large enough boiler. Most people get close to a solution with a larger boiler.
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• #19132
Unless purchased from a renewable-specific energy supplier, electric oven use will result in emissions roughly equivalent to a gas oven because ~50% of UK electricity comes from gas/coal/oil and generation efficiencies are ~50% or so.
Either way, we don't have a beefy enough electricity transmission network to enable everyone to switch to electric ovens/heating. Our electric network is near capacity already. But we do have a gas pipe network which can transfer >5x the energy. If only we didn't have to put fossil fuels in these pipes! Hydrogen gas made by renewable-fed electrolysis (or SMR with CCS) could be an answer but we're 10+ years off.
TL;DR: Gas ovens are, at present, no worse than electric ovens.
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• #19133
John Lewis have a pretty decent range of 13Amp ovens. I was faced with the same challenge and got a 13A oven, it's been no different in operation to a conventional 30A
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• #19134
On the topic of weak mains pressure, we are one of 63 flats, modern regulations would see a large pump providing pressure but the block went up in the 1930s and all we have is mains pressure - which is not great by the time it gets to us. Would a pump resolve this, or would it simply overwhelm the supply?
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• #19135
your best bet is to get an internal pump fitted
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• #19136
Who’s not buying their energy from a ‘green’* supplier in 2019?
*If you ignore all the carbon trading certificate obfuscation.
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• #19137
Oh - is there a sprinkler system or any plans to have one retrofitted to your block
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• #19138
No and no.
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• #19139
According to moneysupermarket.com, "13% of consumers are currently on a green tariff".
So 87% are not.
Of course there are many different shades of green: RE / bio-energy / nuclear / ROCs / LECs / offsetting, etc.
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• #19140
Cheers. Unfortunately I've got pretty specific requirements (freestanding cooker, 13A supply, hotzone above of 650mm or less) which none of those seem to fit.
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• #19141
Hello helpful forumengers,
I've taken receipt of this wonderful 1930s Wardle Prismalux bulkhead light for the porch ceiling. It's out of the weather.
There's a light there already so getting power there isn't an issue.
Question is, the feed comes into one end of the light. Do I need a short bit of conduit then some sort of vintage terminal box to take it into the ceiling?
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• #19142
Didn't think to check electrical feed! I have the same issue it seems. Old cooker is on 13a. CU says there's a dedicated cooker circuit but I can't see an outlet.
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• #19143
You would potentially be starving other flats by sucking the supply in. The best way to achieve decent internal pressure is to use a cold water tank that feeds a pump which pressurises a smaller tank at 6bar which then provides 1.8 or something to the property. Problem is you need to check every pipe in the property can take the pressure and you need space for the tanks and pumps.
In theory small domestic property with low demand, i.e. only one bathroom, would not need the huge tank a 4 bed three bathroom place needs. You could probably calculate the requirement and have tanks very close to the optimum size.
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• #19144
Hidden behind a cupboard probably. Should say possibly :)
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• #19145
You've got a grommet on the end by the look of it. You could probably get away with black 'arctic' but it could be done with metal conduit and a metal exterior box, might compliment the style. Kind of depends on exactly how your existing light is set.
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• #19146
You would potentially be starving other flats by sucking the supply in. The best way to achieve decent internal pressure is to use a cold water tank that feeds a pump which pressurises a smaller tank at 6bar which then provides 1.8 or something to the property. Problem is you need to check every pipe in the property can take the pressure and you need space for the tanks and pumps.
In theory small domestic property with low demand, i.e. only one bathroom, would not need the huge tank a 4 bed three bathroom place needs. You could probably calculate the requirement and have tanks very close to the optimum size.
At the moment you can't run two taps at the same time, one will be a dribble and the other not much better.
It'd be awesome to have decent pressure, I'd be happy to install a small tank - however it appears that a shower uses around 50 litres of water, so for two people a 100 litre tank would be needed - which is going to be a significant volume to hide away somewhere.
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• #19147
Love our unvented cylinder. Still need to box it in, mind
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• #19148
Our flow rate is 4.5 litres/minute according to my timing of 6.86 seconds per half litre.
This pump would boost that to 12 litre/min: https://www.stuart-turner.co.uk/product/mainsboost-flomate-mbf-12-46574
But would that also steal the water from all my neighbours?
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• #19149
How do you know that one or more neighbours haven't installed a pump already and that this is the reason you have shite water pressure?
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• #19150
Unfortunately not. Can only see the ring main running behind the units. Electrician's coming tomorrow to try and figure it out.
Ah right, I didn't realise that, I'll leave it for the Currys engineer to deal with I think.