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• #14252
Calling all electricians...
We're having our downstairs bathroom renovated at the moment.
The previous owner seems to have bodged the electrics and taken the fan isolator, the underfloor heating (being removed anyway) and a plug socket for the washing machine from the upstairs ring via some dodgy wiring behind plasterboard I'm the ceiling and down the wall.
The washing machine is in a cupboard (with door) and we were planning to have that fully replaced with a stud wall and cupboard door in the new bathroom.
Obviously we need to have the wiring changed to come from the downstairs ring; the consumer unit is the other side of the same wall so that's not hard. The question is the socket for the washing machine...
What's legal in the UK? Can we have an open socket in the bathroom if it's separated by a cupboard door? What about a waterproof socket? Or wired directly in?
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• #14253
Catapult?
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• #14254
£1 b&q buckets and a few willing friends. Two buckets per person.
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• #14255
What are you, a peasant? Trebuchet or bust. Better range and more damage, and in this case you don't really need the mobility that a catapult provides.
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• #14256
Good call. Ill pick up buckets tonight.
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• #14257
What's legal in the UK? Can we have an open socket in the bathroom if it's separated by a cupboard door? What about a waterproof socket? Or wired directly in?
Zone 0 is the smallest cuboid volume that contains the bath, shower basin, etc..
Zone 1 is the area above Zone 0, up to a height of 2.25 m above the floor.
Zone 2 is the area above Zone 1 up to a height of 3 m, as well as the area that is horizontally within 0.6 m from Zone 1.Before the 2008 regulations, such shaving sockets were the only sockets permitted in a bathroom or shower room. Since BS7671:2008 normal domestic sockets are permitted, at distances greater than 3 m from the edge of the zones, providing the circuit is RCD protected. As the new regulations also require all general purpose sockets not for use by skilled or instructed persons to be RCD protected, this effectively permits normal wiring in the larger bathroom.
found this with a five minute google, qualified electricians might have a laugh at this who knows.
You can have any type of socket you like, as long as it's 3M (!) away from the edge of z2.
Can you wire something directly in? Possibly, you will have checked to make sure you can operate the appliance in a 'bathroom' environment first, right?
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• #14258
That's cool, I genuinely can't work out it's not falling over though. Centre of gravity looks well outside its footprint.
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• #14259
I did a quick google first re: regs etc and found similar posts. Obviously, we're well inside the 3m zone.
The reason i'm confused is peoples interpretations of what a wall, door etc constitutes and there's some back and forth of opinion between wiring it directly etc.
Was hoping someone more familiar with the regs would step in and clear it up.
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• #14260
Washing machine is a can of worms. This link from the IET identifies a few of the issues:- https://www.theiet.org/forums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=205&threadid=10025
There are quite a few threads on the subject. Best bet is you let the electrician doing the work decide what has to happen. Try different electricians until you get an answer that works for you. Most people find it's cheaper to relocate the washing machine.
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• #14261
Yeah. At my sisters gaff they built a washing machine sized recess in to the bathroom but the machine is accessed from the hallway and the electrical connection is 'in' the hallway. Looks kinda weird but if you have the space to fully enclose the machine with a cupboard door, access from anywhere other than the bathroom seems like an improvement.
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• #14262
Is there a straight line through the house that goes vaguely downwards?
Construct a chute, like an oversized marblerun, then roll a wheeled platform back and forth along it. The chute keeps it going in a straight line. Use ropes to pull it back and forth. Bonus points if you raise the street end so you have gravity assist when full.
This or pit ponies.
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• #14263
sadly not really... but it would be cool to build a curvy track like scaletrix!
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• #14264
I have a washing machine in a bathroom cupboard but the flex goes through a hole in the back of the cupboard to a single 13A spur socket in another cupboard accessed from the hallway. This is just a DIY arrangement. would it fall foul of the regs since all the wiring is actually outside the bathroom..?
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• #14265
I had some leaks through my ceiling and some paper was removed/damaged. Below the (many layers) of paper is board. Roof has now been fixed and I want to repaint this without it looking like chunks are missing. Obviously one solution is to get it plastered but that's beyond my DIY level.
I asked on here a while back and I think a suggestion was to splice some paper in there. I didn't get round to asking at the time but how would I do this, wallpaper paste or something? And what would be the best way to blend in where the old meets the new so there isn't an obvious patch?
Cheers
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• #14266
It's not freestanding. Rests up against a convenient wall or router table.
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• #14267
Yeah I just thought it looked like the weight of the shoes would pull it over. I like the design, minimal.
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• #14268
Ah, I see what you mean. All good so far, no toppling issues.
Got a thread for the making and selling
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• #14269
It's not the easiest job to start on but basically get a patch of lining paper, soak it for five minutes with paste, place it over the damaged area and cut with a very sharp clean blade through both layers of paper, then take the old paper out from underneath the new piece and paste the new piece in.
Unless you are some kind of wallpaper savant this is not going to work first time out but you'll get close. Fill the gaps between old and new paper with a decorators filler.
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• #14270
This is quite funny:
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• #14271
Genius.
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• #14272
im curious what the outcome would be...
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• #14273
Hah. Please update with results.
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• #14274
Help.
I’m in deepest, darkest Cornwall, at my in laws holiday house and the hot water is fucked.
It’s a tank and there doesn’t appear to be power to the bottom element. The booster element has power. The light on the the switched spur for the bottom one does not light. No fuse in the spur. No breakers tripped.
Electrician time?
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• #14275
Don't think they have hot water / electricity in deepest, darkest Cornwall.
i have a ton of stones being delivered to my house. What is the solution to get it from the street to the backyard through the house? I dont think i have much options as to where the stone is being delivered to, and i need to carry it personally through the house.
Wheelbarrow? Hessian Bags?
If a wheelbarrow, how do i know it will fit through the various doors, can one buy a narrow version?
Any help / suggestions appreciated.