Wikileaks release Iraq War Logs

I just like that fact he can scare governments without a single detonation.

they have released some pretty important stuff lets not forget that
the video of american chopper shooting journalists

they have released a lot of pretty trivial stuff
prince phillip is can be a bit racist at times well thanks for that

so wikileaks are in effect not releasing all the info supplied to them, they only release documents that are in their benefit to release

fucked up, thats what that is

How is this different from any other news type organisation?

That may be the case- and indeed making sure that there were adequate cut-outs in place between the source and the CEO would be a good idea.

It does remain that Manning is widely agreed to have been the source of the leaked information, and his defence is being paid for (or contributed to rather) by a whip round of concerned citizens.

Assange seems to be pretty silent on the whole thing- and certainly is not putting his hand in his corporate pocket.

That's a whole heap of assumptions you are making. Also, would Assange speaking up for Manning really help him or just make things worse? And how about the way Manning is being treated in a US jail? That's less noteworthy than these tabloid concerns about whether or not he is a weirdo or smug or whatever? Assange's motivation does not matter one whit.
Dicki does have a valid point about Assange's Russian colleague though.

How is this different from any other news type organisation?

I don't think wikileaks is supposed to be a news organisation
they are meant to represent freedom of speech exposing governments

although as with most organisations they must have a political agenda
or have had the willies put up them by some murky russian underworld figures to surpress some info

They disseminate information, I'd say that counts as a news type organisation. Representing freedom of speech though this method.

They disseminate information, I'd say that counts as a news type organisation. Representing freedom of speech though this method.

if they choose what to disseminate or suppress because it effects their associates then how is that representing freedom of speech.

Exactly

Just like any other news type organisation contradicts themself. We just take what we can use from them. It's another source of information, you can never take nay source to be pure.

Again this has nothing to do with Julian Assange's case and the questions of extrication via the back door.

That's a whole heap of assumptions you are making.

• Name one assumption
  
  

Also, would Assange speaking up for Manning really help him or just make things worse?

• I'm not talking about speaking out for him, I'm talking about some financial support for his legal team
  
  

And how about the way Manning is being treated in a US jail? That's less noteworthy than these tabloid concerns about whether or not he is a weirdo or smug or whatever?

• I don't understand what point you are making there.
  
  

Assange's motivation does not matter one whit.

• Of course it does- it's in some ways the most important part of this, if you look at Dicki's post and think about what Assange may be choosing to omit, and why
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Dicki does have a valid point about Assange's Russian colleague though.

Yep, totally agree.

If indeed these claims in the documentaries are true. Many of these are them self very bias. We just have t considerer the information add it to the pile.

"certainly is not putting his hand in his corporate pocket"

Do you know this for sure? No one can say for sure, ergo, 'assumption'.

Wikileaks has donated $15,000 to the Bradley Manning Support Network. Manning has been imprisoned in solitary confinement since July, charged with transferring classified data and transmitting it to an unauthorised source.

It's taken Wikileaks seven months to honour its pledge to pay Manning's legal fees - and the gift still leaves the support group a few dollars short of its $115,000 target.

He's being pretty quiet about it - how do you know he's not helping? It's not going to be publicised.

"certainly is not putting his hand in his corporate pocket"

Do you know this for sure? No one can say for sure, ergo, 'assumption'.

I reckon hippy's in on it. ;)

I don't see why wikileaks needs to be impartial. It's a private organisation, funded by individuals who choose to donate. Therefore they can take whatever biased viewpoint they wish to. It's up to you whether or not you give them any credence and how you interpret their guff.

My 2p, is all.

I think it takes a certain kind of person to want to do the kind of stuff they're doing and it's unlikely to be an entirely benevolent act.

For me, anything which makes the rich and powerful squirm has to have some positive aspects.

but they proclaim freedom of speech
that is what they are all about or am i missing the point completely ?

I take your point, but if (say) I was Vladimir Putin, and I was funding Wikileaks (say) then I would have, essentially, editorial control over what gets leaked and what does not.

The leaks themselves have credibility in large part because they are thought to be released impartially- i.e. the very lack of motivation other than that of releasing information gives them credence.

To discover a narrative beyond simply releasing the info for it's own sake would devalue all of it.

so what does assange stand for then
what is his political bent ?
i thought he just wanted to out secrets

I think he wants to be famous

I take your point, but if (say) I was Vladimir Putin, and I was funding Wikileaks (say) then I would have, essentially, editorial control over what gets leaked and what does not.

I suppose you get out what you put in.

looks like he will be extradited to Sweden

So the sex charges stuck?

will be interesting to see how Sweden handles this. My hopes are about this high: _

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/06/201161962910765678.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/12/julian-assange-extradition-live-coverage?utm_source=%40FreeAssangeNow&utm_medium=Twitter